I need some help on what to do if I want to upgrade my 77 spider with a Weber 38 ADLD 150 . Unfortunately my car has the accelerator linkage with the ''drum and spring'' type.
What do I need to change if I want to install a 38 ADLD?
Thanks for the input
Upgrading a 77, with a Weber 38ADLD 150
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Re: Upgrading a 77, with a Weber 38ADLD 150
you need the cable, valve cover and linkage mounted to the valve cover and the rod from the twist linkage to the carb. it is a very simple change
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Re: Upgrading a 77, with a Weber 38ADLD 150
Thanks, Beek
What cable type should I get?
Also sorry for my ignorance what do you mean by "rod from the twist linkage to the carb"?
Thanks again
What cable type should I get?
Also sorry for my ignorance what do you mean by "rod from the twist linkage to the carb"?
Thanks again
Re: Upgrading a 77, with a Weber 38ADLD 150
Here is what I´m trying to do:
http://www.mirafiori.com/faq/content/we ... 38_adl.htm
I found a 38ADLD150 in Italy and my car is in France, so shipping should not be so bad.
http://www.mirafiori.com/faq/content/we ... 38_adl.htm
I found a 38ADLD150 in Italy and my car is in France, so shipping should not be so bad.
Re: Upgrading a 77, with a Weber 38ADLD 150
Just and update.
I install the 38ADL (primary 175 secondary 200) on my 77 and what a change!!!!!! this thing is nuts it has lot more power than my previous 34ADF.
The only thing is that at idle the engine runs a little ruff. Any idea on the ruff idle at around 1000RPM?
I have to inform you that I have adjustable cam gears with 40/80 cams, high compression pistons a 4/1 manifold with 2.25 exhaust system, and Mark's distributor less system set at 12 degree advance.
Thanks for any input.
Coise
I install the 38ADL (primary 175 secondary 200) on my 77 and what a change!!!!!! this thing is nuts it has lot more power than my previous 34ADF.
The only thing is that at idle the engine runs a little ruff. Any idea on the ruff idle at around 1000RPM?
I have to inform you that I have adjustable cam gears with 40/80 cams, high compression pistons a 4/1 manifold with 2.25 exhaust system, and Mark's distributor less system set at 12 degree advance.
Thanks for any input.
Coise
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Re: Upgrading a 77, with a Weber 38ADLD 150
Hi!
Why don't you put on 2x44 IDF with with those cams and exhaust,it would boost power!
Cheers
Alf
Why don't you put on 2x44 IDF with with those cams and exhaust,it would boost power!
Cheers
Alf
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Re: Upgrading a 77, with a Weber 38ADLD 150
Isn't that a function of the cam as opposed to the Carb? My 38ADL idles smoothly.coise wrote:The only thing is that at idle the engine runs a little ruff. Any idea on the ruff idle at around 1000RPM?
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Re: Upgrading a 77, with a Weber 38ADLD 150
Thanks for the inputs.
2x44IDF is not an option for me, I use my car in the summer only and I don't want to spend my time tuning it every year.
As for the cams I will try to tweak the timing a little to see what happens. Maybe not enough overlap...what do you think?
This carb is great specially when the secondary barrel opens up it feels like a turbo
Salut
2x44IDF is not an option for me, I use my car in the summer only and I don't want to spend my time tuning it every year.
As for the cams I will try to tweak the timing a little to see what happens. Maybe not enough overlap...what do you think?
This carb is great specially when the secondary barrel opens up it feels like a turbo
Salut
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Re: Upgrading a 77, with a Weber 38ADLD 150
You don't say what your idle jet size is, or if you tried adjusting the idle mixture?
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http://italiancarclub.com/csaba/
Co-owner of the best dang Fiat parts place in town
Re: Upgrading a 77, with a Weber 38ADLD 150
Primary is 200 secondary is 171, and yes I tried turning the idle mixture screw. Also the carb is brand new unused old stock.
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Re: Upgrading a 77, with a Weber 38ADLD 150
Precisely the reason why I keep mine and refuse to move to dual 44's like a friend of mine hascoise wrote:This carb is great specially when the secondary barrel opens up it feels like a turbo
Jetting (like Csaba says) is also a potential. I seemed to have to back out the mixture screw further than I'd anticipated when I set mine up - however - it runs just great, isn't overly rich, and is fun.
Perhaps the timing could be tweaked, do you have adjustable cam gears?
Finally some sport cams just have a lumpy idle... what does the manufacturer of yours say?
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Re: Upgrading a 77, with a Weber 38ADLD 150
Hm, those sound like main jet sizes, idle jets sizes are usually in the 50-60 range, or thereabouts.coise wrote:Primary is 200 secondary is 171, and yes I tried turning the idle mixture screw. Also the carb is brand new unused old stock.
Csaba
'71 124 Spider, much modified
'17 124 Abarth, silver
http://italiancarclub.com/csaba/
Co-owner of the best dang Fiat parts place in town
'71 124 Spider, much modified
'17 124 Abarth, silver
http://italiancarclub.com/csaba/
Co-owner of the best dang Fiat parts place in town
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Re: Upgrading a 77, with a Weber 38ADLD 150
Aren't those jets the wrong way round?
Primary 170, Secondary 200??
Primary 170, Secondary 200??