Which wilwood brake kit to get? From Midwest-124 or Vick's

surfingfreeman · Post by **surfingfreeman** » Fri Jul 02, 2010 2:49 am

Hi all
Wondering if anyone can recommend the better kit? I am assuming the calipers are the same but the rotars offered look different, can someone give a crash-coarse in the thermodynamics involved in heat generation/dissipation? What is the better rotar to buy and why? From what I can see one rotar is vented while the other is drilled and slotted. Thanks
Michael

surfingfreeman · Post by **surfingfreeman** » Fri Jul 02, 2010 3:27 am

Wow how the spelling has gone downhill, oh well.

spiderrey · Post by **spiderrey** » Fri Jul 02, 2010 5:54 pm

Personally Im a midwest fan for parts. Vented is better.

manoa matt · Post by **manoa matt** » Fri Jul 02, 2010 6:05 pm

The Whoa kit uses stock solid rotors, although drilled and slotted versions are available. The Vicks kit uses Uno turbo rotors, which are vented, but I don't know if they are slotted and drilled too.

Vented rotors disipate heat better than a solid rotor. The slots and drilled holes disipate hot gas generated by the pads. The gas acts as a buffer between the pad and rotor, the slots or holes let the gas escape so the pad makes better contact with the rotor surface.

On a solid rotor the drilled holes don't do much as there is a pad on each side and the gas can't escape, but the slots do disipate the gas. Drilled and slotted works better on a vented rotor as the gas can escape into the vented area.

Both kits use fixed Wilwood 4 piston calipers, which aside from the rotor width are esentially the same.

Danno · Post by **Danno** » Fri Jul 02, 2010 10:02 pm

depends on whether you want to stop "very fast" or "really fast". Also depends on how much you want to pay in order to do that.

surfingfreeman · Post by **surfingfreeman** » Sat Jul 03, 2010 11:38 am

Thanks everyone for the input. I just saw this on Ebay by a company called "Centric" or "Eagle Brakes" wondering if anyone has any experience with the outfit? At $148 for 4-vented/drilled and slotted rotors plus pads all around.....probably too good to be true???????????????? Hmmm?
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/FIAT-PIN ... ccessories

So Cal Mark · Post by **So Cal Mark** » Sat Jul 03, 2010 11:42 am

how are you going to fit vented rotors onto the stock calipers?

htchevyii · Post by **htchevyii** » Sat Jul 03, 2010 12:02 pm

I don't think you are going to get "vented" rotors, more like "drilled and slotted". It looks like they just used a picture from another vehicle for the auction, (no way those are Fiat pads) and like Mark said, the stock calipers aren't wide enough for a "vented" rotor.

surfingfreeman · Post by **surfingfreeman** » Sat Jul 03, 2010 12:14 pm

Hey Mark
Would be using Wilwood calipers.

BEEK · Post by **BEEK** » Sat Jul 03, 2010 1:22 pm

So Cal Mark wrote:how are you going to fit vented rotors onto the stock calipers?

using paperlike thin pads?

BEEK · Post by **BEEK** » Sat Jul 03, 2010 1:24 pm

i wonder if the punto calipers would be a easy adaptation. havent looked into that. but have looked into the rotors.

So Cal Mark · Post by **So Cal Mark** » Sun Jul 04, 2010 1:51 am

"At $148 for 4-vented/drilled and slotted rotors plus pads "
I only asked because vented rotors were mentioned, but I assumed you were substituting these for the Whoa kit and retaining the stock calipers. So if you're using Wilwood, are you making your own caliper brackets and brake hoses?
Are you expecting much braking difference while using the stock size rotor?

surfingfreeman · Post by **surfingfreeman** » Sun Jul 04, 2010 3:42 am

I see what you are saying, I wasn't thinking clearly. Thanks for clarifying

VAS · Post by **VAS** » Thu Jul 15, 2010 8:46 am

For the totally performance minded enthusiast, Vick Autosports offers drilled and slotted vented rotors in our VAS Improvement Brake Kit as well as the standard vented rotor.

-Jerry Lee Phillips
owner VAS
see our specials & online catalog at vickauto.com

PS - We also have another new product, VAS Improvement Exhaust: 2 1/4 inch exhaust center pipe & rear muffler. They are made for early cars (with the pipe near the center of the car) and late (with the pipe running on the right side of the car). Racers will find the exhaust, like our VAS Improvement Brake Kit, an easy installation.

THEFIAT · Post by **THEFIAT** » Sat May 07, 2011 3:46 pm

Late arrival also.
I changed over from stock brakes to the Whoa setup with drilled and slotted rotors. Put matching (but stock diameter) rotors on the rear, with the original stock rear calipers.

At the same time I bolted on a set of 15" Serpent Auto Type 3.5 wheels, it my car show on there site, and put on a full set of 205/50ZR-15 BFGoodrich g-Force Super Sport tires.

The setup looks great and works even better.

With all that rubber on the road and the Whoa's willwoods it really does 'Whoa' when you need it to.

Most secure I have ever felt in my Fiat 124 on damp pavement!

Jon

Which wilwood brake kit to get? From Midwest-124 or Vick's

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