Weber 32/36 DFEV Upgrade: Game, but Ignorant

Make it go fast! Kick it up a notch. Post tips in here.
Post Reply
User avatar
opus10583
Posts: 861
Joined: Tue May 03, 2011 7:13 am
Your car is a: 1978 CS1
Location: Westchester County, NY

Re: Weber 32/36 DFEV Upgrade: Game, but Ignorant

Post by opus10583 »

Thanks Matt, thanks Mark.

...Big dumb mistake on my part, I was worried about air filter housing clearance.
...Yes; I know what it means: Fabbrica Italiana Automobili Torino.

DOLCETTO: 1978 CS1; 10:1, DMS, 4-2-1...
ANDIAMMO: 2012 500 ABARTH

Acquista il Biglietto; Prendere la Gita! - Hunter S. Thompson
User avatar
opus10583
Posts: 861
Joined: Tue May 03, 2011 7:13 am
Your car is a: 1978 CS1
Location: Westchester County, NY

Re: Weber 32/36 DFEV Upgrade: Game, but Ignorant

Post by opus10583 »

Hi guys,

Before I go nuts and start overnighting spacers and gaskets from the four corners:

Are we sure?

IAP pairs the DFEV with the 12mm spacer in their catalog.

Thanks,
Mark
...Yes; I know what it means: Fabbrica Italiana Automobili Torino.

DOLCETTO: 1978 CS1; 10:1, DMS, 4-2-1...
ANDIAMMO: 2012 500 ABARTH

Acquista il Biglietto; Prendere la Gita! - Hunter S. Thompson
User avatar
manoa matt
Posts: 3442
Joined: Thu Oct 26, 2006 4:28 pm
Your car is a: 1978 Fiat 124 Spider 1800
Location: Honolulu, Hawaii

Re: Weber 32/36 DFEV Upgrade: Game, but Ignorant

Post by manoa matt »

"Are we sure?"

Absolutly sure. I just had a 32/36 last week, compared it against a 32ADFA and installed them both on the same stock manifold with stock length manifold studs and took measurements.

1 1/8" spacer would be ideal with thin paper gaskets, 1 inch spacer would be good with the 1/8" thick fiber gasket that usually comes with a rebuild kit.

If you stack two 10mm spacers the stock length intake manifold studs will protrude above the carb base plate higher than usuall. If you look closely at the carb, three of the four studs will not be an issue, however there is a tight clearance height around one of the studs due to the choke housing or the accelrator pump housing. That one stud may need to be shortened.
User avatar
124JOE
Posts: 3141
Joined: Fri Jun 24, 2011 7:11 pm
Your car is a: 1978 124 fiat spider sport 1800
Location: SO. WI

Re: Weber 32/36 DFEV Upgrade: Game, but Ignorant

Post by 124JOE »

hey guys i was just in there today
i mesured 45mm to where i want the top of the carb mount
the base is 10mm thick
and the two gaskets are 1mm each
one for the top of spacer one for the bottom

is the 1 1/8 spacer 33mm?
when you do everything correct people arent sure youve done anything at all (futurama)
ul1joe@yahoo.com 124joe@gmail.com
User avatar
manoa matt
Posts: 3442
Joined: Thu Oct 26, 2006 4:28 pm
Your car is a: 1978 Fiat 124 Spider 1800
Location: Honolulu, Hawaii

Re: Weber 32/36 DFEV Upgrade: Game, but Ignorant

Post by manoa matt »

Joe, no one makes a 1 1/8" spacer. Closest is a 1 inch from Jason Miller at Millers Mule. I think a 1 inch spacer with gaskets on both sides would be close enough without issues.
bobplyler
Patron 2022
Patron 2022
Posts: 823
Joined: Sat Jan 30, 2010 7:58 pm
Your car is a: 1979 spider 2000
Location: Charlotte, NC

Re: Weber 32/36 DFEV Upgrade: Game, but Ignorant

Post by bobplyler »

What I used for a spacer was the throttle plate from my original ADHA. I tapped the holes that the trottle plate shafts went through, and put bolts there. I sealed them with both epoxy and loctite. I sealed any other holes with epoxy. It's worked great for over 10 years. But I'm wary of the epoxy. I'm getting ready to replace it with two spacers.
1979 Fiat Spider (since new)
2005 Lincoln LS (the wife's car)
2003 Chevrolet Cavalier (daily driver)
1999 Honda Shadow VLX 600
1972 Grumman Traveller 5895L (long gone).
User avatar
124JOE
Posts: 3141
Joined: Fri Jun 24, 2011 7:11 pm
Your car is a: 1978 124 fiat spider sport 1800
Location: SO. WI

Re: Weber 32/36 DFEV Upgrade: Game, but Ignorant

Post by 124JOE »

matt i sent him a PM last week and heard nothing back
when you do everything correct people arent sure youve done anything at all (futurama)
ul1joe@yahoo.com 124joe@gmail.com
User avatar
124JOE
Posts: 3141
Joined: Fri Jun 24, 2011 7:11 pm
Your car is a: 1978 124 fiat spider sport 1800
Location: SO. WI

Re: Weber 32/36 DFEV Upgrade: Game, but Ignorant

Post by 124JOE »

ok so i went to his site
1/2" thick spacer 25
1 " thick 30 bucks
when you do everything correct people arent sure youve done anything at all (futurama)
ul1joe@yahoo.com 124joe@gmail.com
So Cal Mark

Re: Weber 32/36 DFEV Upgrade: Game, but Ignorant

Post by So Cal Mark »

I've also used the base plate from the adha carbs. One advantage is that you gain some vacuum ports which can be handy when reconnecting the emission equipment
User avatar
124JOE
Posts: 3141
Joined: Fri Jun 24, 2011 7:11 pm
Your car is a: 1978 124 fiat spider sport 1800
Location: SO. WI

Re: Weber 32/36 DFEV Upgrade: Game, but Ignorant

Post by 124JOE »

but i dont want to wreck the adfa
when you do everything correct people arent sure youve done anything at all (futurama)
ul1joe@yahoo.com 124joe@gmail.com
User avatar
boogiedude
Posts: 410
Joined: Mon Mar 02, 2009 5:22 am
Your car is a: 1978 spider 1800
Location: Honolulu, HI

Re: Weber 32/36 DFEV Upgrade: Game, but Ignorant

Post by boogiedude »

the adfa and adha are different. 32adfa and 28/32 adha

the adha is the weak anemic carb used on the 79 and 80 carb'd cars
User avatar
124JOE
Posts: 3141
Joined: Fri Jun 24, 2011 7:11 pm
Your car is a: 1978 124 fiat spider sport 1800
Location: SO. WI

Re: Weber 32/36 DFEV Upgrade: Game, but Ignorant

Post by 124JOE »

yes and the holes are smaller
Image
so if i use a base off the adfa
it will be the same as the adfa
responce wise
when you do everything correct people arent sure youve done anything at all (futurama)
ul1joe@yahoo.com 124joe@gmail.com
User avatar
opus10583
Posts: 861
Joined: Tue May 03, 2011 7:13 am
Your car is a: 1978 CS1
Location: Westchester County, NY

Re: Weber 32/36 DFEV Upgrade: Game, but Ignorant

Post by opus10583 »

Hi,

Thank you all for the guidance.

I've been persuaded the path to personal enlightenment lies through shorter mounting studs.

...Look for my next thread, "How the hell do I remove these %#^$*_&?"@¿8+! carb mounting studs?" sometime Saturday afternoon.

Thanks,
Mark
...Yes; I know what it means: Fabbrica Italiana Automobili Torino.

DOLCETTO: 1978 CS1; 10:1, DMS, 4-2-1...
ANDIAMMO: 2012 500 ABARTH

Acquista il Biglietto; Prendere la Gita! - Hunter S. Thompson
User avatar
124JOE
Posts: 3141
Joined: Fri Jun 24, 2011 7:11 pm
Your car is a: 1978 124 fiat spider sport 1800
Location: SO. WI

Re: Weber 32/36 DFEV Upgrade: Game, but Ignorant

Post by 124JOE »

the taller spacer give you more low end tourqe
when you do everything correct people arent sure youve done anything at all (futurama)
ul1joe@yahoo.com 124joe@gmail.com
User avatar
opus10583
Posts: 861
Joined: Tue May 03, 2011 7:13 am
Your car is a: 1978 CS1
Location: Westchester County, NY

Re: Weber 32/36 DFEV Upgrade: Game, but Ignorant

Post by opus10583 »

124JOE wrote:the taller spacer give you more low end tourqe
Hi Joe,

I have heard and considered that, I don't see it being a controlling quality; 4-2-1 added torque, free-er breathing carb and filter will add torque, don't consider another 12mm of plenum to be significant.

Thanks,
Mark
...Yes; I know what it means: Fabbrica Italiana Automobili Torino.

DOLCETTO: 1978 CS1; 10:1, DMS, 4-2-1...
ANDIAMMO: 2012 500 ABARTH

Acquista il Biglietto; Prendere la Gita! - Hunter S. Thompson
Post Reply