Delete center resonator
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Delete center resonator
I'm considering running headers (Vicks), cat (or test pipe , no center resonator and ANSA dual tip.
Does anyone make a center resonator delete pipe? Anyone running this kind of setup?
Does anyone make a center resonator delete pipe? Anyone running this kind of setup?
- 124JOE
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Re: Delete center resonator
no i used a stock center
if your looking for a differance go with a 2inch pipe,ft to back.joe
if your looking for a differance go with a 2inch pipe,ft to back.joe
when you do everything correct people arent sure youve done anything at all (futurama)
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Re: Delete center resonator
That would be called a test pipe. The resonator is what gives the deep sound.
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Re: Delete center resonator
Kinda sorta.scampbel98 wrote:I'm considering running headers (Vicks), cat (or test pipe , no center resonator and ANSA dual tip.
Does anyone make a center resonator delete pipe? Anyone running this kind of setup?
I have headers and recently had some exhaust work done. At the point where the downpipe goes from two to one,I chopped there and went 2 inch back to the Ansa twin tip. No resonator but do put an extra hanger somewheres before the pipe goes over the axle. It needs the extra support. The sound is louder without the resonator for sure but tolerable. I recently drove it a couple of hours one way to visit a friend and it didn't bother the ears.(after 25 years of chainsaws and helicopters I'm a bit deaf anyways) Think it was about 8- 10 feet of pipe and a couple of hours labour.
Chris
80 FI spider
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2017 Golf R ( APR Stg. 1)
2018 F350 crew long box
72 work in progress
2017 Golf R ( APR Stg. 1)
2018 F350 crew long box
Re: Delete center resonator
scampbel98
what engine are you running and do you have mods already ?
what engine are you running and do you have mods already ?
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Re: Delete center resonator
Come to think of it, that's about exactly what I got.scampbel98 wrote:I'm considering running headers (Vicks), cat (or test pipe , no center resonator and ANSA dual tip.
Does anyone make a center resonator delete pipe? Anyone running this kind of setup?
Had the second/center resonator removed, Vick's (or possibly IAP, 4-2-1 headers) and an Ansa dual tip purchased from the now defunct LinneaRossa.
I can tell you from personal experience, that removing the second resonator did NOTHING to remove from the "deep" sound that some owners here have mentioned. Maybe i'm just deaf to that particular sound range...who knows! It would be hard to argue that you're not getting a more "free-flow" system with it removed, in my opinion.
The Ansa tip....well, I really love the way it looks and have no plans on replacing it. I'm sure that as far as pure performance is concerned, you may do better with other types out there. That's your call.
Incidently, I am close to completely going full Allison's! In other words, his stepper header, full 2 1/2" exhaust, all the way back to the Ansa. It is designed around not having the second resonator (and with/without the cat.) in place as well.
Good luck.
Re: Delete center resonator
BTW Vicks Header Collector is one of the worst I've seen you should take a look inside the header before
buying it then you will see what i am talking about .
buying it then you will see what i am talking about .
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Re: Delete center resonator
My exhaust goes straight back to the Monza twin tip from where the two headers turn into one. It's loud, but not obnoxiously so, and the sound is quite good. I agree about the hanger being needed to keep the tubing off the rear axle. Mine needs adjustment, as it bangs against the axle at times.
I've noticed that the Patagonia wearing dog walkers in my neighborhood seem to think that I'm going faster than I am in my Spider. More than once I've stopped and asked those who yelled "slow down" how fast they thought I was going. I've never got a straight answer. I've asked to see their "bio speedometer", and really pissed off some menopausal poodle owners.
at 38 years old I can finally keep it below 30 in the neighborhood, but sound=speed to many around here.
I've noticed that the Patagonia wearing dog walkers in my neighborhood seem to think that I'm going faster than I am in my Spider. More than once I've stopped and asked those who yelled "slow down" how fast they thought I was going. I've never got a straight answer. I've asked to see their "bio speedometer", and really pissed off some menopausal poodle owners.
at 38 years old I can finally keep it below 30 in the neighborhood, but sound=speed to many around here.
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Re: Delete center resonator
every exh gasket i will use i will have to modify to fit,because mine is from vics
when you do everything correct people arent sure youve done anything at all (futurama)
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Re: Delete center resonator
@Daniel
I've got what I call a Franken motor...
1.8L Block, not sure of year, bored out to 85mm. (the old pistons literally shook in the cylinders)
2.0L FI head (nice cause the EGR stuff is already blocked off - compressoin i calculate to 10.1:1)
Vicks 85mm domed pistons
Valve job - nothing special
Stock valves
1800 single plane manifold
Weber 32/36 DFEV
stock Electronic ignition
toyota MR2 plug wires (take a look - they work great)
All emissions stuff removed
Exhaust - stock 4:1 manifold, mangnaflow cat, previous center, and ANSA dual tip
I've got what I call a Franken motor...
1.8L Block, not sure of year, bored out to 85mm. (the old pistons literally shook in the cylinders)
2.0L FI head (nice cause the EGR stuff is already blocked off - compressoin i calculate to 10.1:1)
Vicks 85mm domed pistons
Valve job - nothing special
Stock valves
1800 single plane manifold
Weber 32/36 DFEV
stock Electronic ignition
toyota MR2 plug wires (take a look - they work great)
All emissions stuff removed
Exhaust - stock 4:1 manifold, mangnaflow cat, previous center, and ANSA dual tip
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Re: Delete center resonator
nice
when you do everything correct people arent sure youve done anything at all (futurama)
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Re: Delete center resonator
Here's a test pipe for sale
http://www.fiatspider.com/f08/viewtopic ... 11&t=15598
http://www.fiatspider.com/f08/viewtopic ... 11&t=15598
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Re: Delete center resonator
On mine, after removing the central resonator the car sounds like Honda Civic. I look inside of the resonator what was installed by the PO in the car and the pass thru hole was only 1” diameter. I assume is an after market resonator. I did order a 2 ¼” x 12 bottle resonator and I just can’t wait to see the deep sound. My rear muffler is also some after market one.
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Re: Delete center resonator
my spider
9.8-1 2.0 with ported and polished big valve lancia efi casting head
42/82 alquati intake and a 40/80 exhaust
right now a 40dfi on a port matched and opened up 1800 manifold
am going to reinstall the 40idf's soon
using an ansa top half of the header, lengthened runners on the 2-1 stage of the exhaust
going to a 2.5" pipe to a flowmaster muffler in the rear
plex ignition driving a msd 6al
marelli plugs, msd 10.2mm wires, blaster coil
total seal rings, adjustable cam pullies, aluminum ft pulley and flywheel with a luk pressure plate (very light)
9.8-1 2.0 with ported and polished big valve lancia efi casting head
42/82 alquati intake and a 40/80 exhaust
right now a 40dfi on a port matched and opened up 1800 manifold
am going to reinstall the 40idf's soon
using an ansa top half of the header, lengthened runners on the 2-1 stage of the exhaust
going to a 2.5" pipe to a flowmaster muffler in the rear
plex ignition driving a msd 6al
marelli plugs, msd 10.2mm wires, blaster coil
total seal rings, adjustable cam pullies, aluminum ft pulley and flywheel with a luk pressure plate (very light)
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75 spider , 6 Lancia Scorpions, 2018 Abarth Spider, 500X wifes, 500L 3 82 Zagatos. 82 spider 34k original miles, 83 pininfarina, 8 fiat spider parts cars
son has 78 spider
75 spider , 6 Lancia Scorpions, 2018 Abarth Spider, 500X wifes, 500L 3 82 Zagatos. 82 spider 34k original miles, 83 pininfarina, 8 fiat spider parts cars
son has 78 spider
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Re: Delete center resonator
Has anyone replaced their resonator with a glass pak? Results?
I'm pretty sure mine is shot.
I'm pretty sure mine is shot.