1983...pininfarina or fiat?

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Spyshot
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1983...pininfarina or fiat?

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I am new to ownership. I bought an old 2000 (mfg date on door 3/83) for cheap and am going to see about a restore. My car has a "2000" badge on the back, a fiat badge on the steering wheel (the one that spells out fiat with leaves around it) but the badges on the truck and hood are missing (I can see they were round). There is a pininfarina badge on the side in front of the rear wheels and a spidereuropa badge on the center console.....I'm not able to upload photos yet...Working on it.

1-Was this made by fiat or Pininfarina?
2-What badge would've been on the hood and trunk? I've seen round fiat Badges, rectangle "F" badges and round "F" badges.

Adam
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ORFORD2004
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Your car is a: 1983 PININFARINA
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Re: 1983...pininfarina or fiat?

Post by ORFORD2004 »

Pinin if your mirror are like the orange one on the site
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Thanks for the reply. I do not have mirrors on the triangle glass, i have two side mirrors on the metal of the doors. I wonder if the mirrors are original. My Triangle glass has no hole in it where a mirror would mount and the glass pivots out.

Adam
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Then, it's not a Pinin
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The center console is also different
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So there must be 83 fiats and 83 pininfarina. Seams like mine has a lot of style from the 82 model year. But the door definitely says 3/83.
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Mine said 09 83
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Hi,
whats your VIN? Starting ZFRAS means "Pininfarina" built and badged, ZFAAS means "FIAT" badged. Your build date 03/83 tells us, that your VIN must be like ZFRAS00BxD55019xx or .. 55020xx, so it's officially a "Pininfarina" Azzurra Spider!

Can we get your car data for the worldwide Spider Register? Thanks in advance.

Bye Ralf
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Looks like you are right about the VIN.

I'll send the info.
What badges do you think were on the car originally? The only badge I see is the Fiat on the steering wheel.
I took the side mirror off, but it was mounted just below the door's vent window on the sheet metal.
Thanks for the info....

Pictures finally.

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Re: 1983...pininfarina or fiat?

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Spyshot wrote:Looks like you are right about the VIN.

I'll send the info.
What badges do you think were on the car originally? The only badge I see is the Fiat on the steering wheel.

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I think in 84 they switched to a rectangular hood badge. Saw this one at a car show last month. Not sure if it’s original or not though.
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Also found this on AutoRicambi…….

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thank you.

So it's pretty clear it is a pinn. Some weird stuff still going on like:
Mirrors seam to be wrong.
No air conditioning. I don't care but I thought I read that they all had ac for that year.

Doesn't say Azzurra anywhere but says SuperEuropa on dash.
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Hi
and thanks for the VIN for the Register.

Perhaps interesting for you:
http://www.pininfarinaazzurra.com/

A fan site for the last model type aka "The Pininfarina Azzurra Spider".

Cheers Ralf
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Thank you! Great site. Lots of info there.
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Spyshot wrote:thank you.

So it's pretty clear it is a pinn. Some weird stuff still going on like:
Mirrors seam to be wrong.
No air conditioning. I don't care but I thought I read that they all had ac for that year.

Doesn't say Azzurra anywhere but says SuperEuropa on dash.
You never know what or why previous owners did what they did.
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