1971 Spider Restoration Puzzle .

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1971 Spider Restoration Puzzle .

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Hi All,
I've started to assemble our 124 that I got from a friend who dissembled the car in preparation for a full restoration. I don't know anything about Fiat 124s but I'm going to try to put it together.

Here's the story of the car: http://www.fiatspider.com/f15/viewtopic ... 01#p297155
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Here is the blank canvas:

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I got the rear brake compensation valve on. I wonder why the lines are routed this way with such a tight bend away from the coilspring?

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Well I almost lost it in frustration. I tried pushing the rear bump stops into their holes, I tried greasing them, I tried using a rope, I tried Boiling them, I tried safety wire, I tried squeezing the nipple with a hose clamp and then just before I shot the car I decided to modify it with a rivnut insert.

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Clever!
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There is a trick to inserting these bump stops, but it sounds like you've found a good (better?) solution. I have to say, those bump stops may be the only thing on a Fiat that I have never removed. I have thought long and hard, and short of cutting out floor panels and replacing sheet metal, the bump stops are the only thing I can think of.

Since one of my current spiders is a '71, I'll be interested in following your story.

-Bryan
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The bumps should be strong, don't know from an engineering standpoint how well they will work. I noticed searching online that Alfa bolts theirs on. Maybe that's why they were more expensive cars.

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18Fiatsandcounting wrote:There is a trick to inserting these bump stops, but it sounds like you've found a good (better?) solution. I have to say, those bump stops may be the only thing on a Fiat that I have never removed. I have thought long and hard, and short of cutting out floor panels and replacing sheet metal, the bump stops are the only thing I can think of.

Since one of my current spiders is a '71, I'll be interested in following your story.

-Bryan
Hey Bryan, I'm glad you will be following. I'm sure I will have questions and it sounds like you're a good person to ask.

At the moment I don't know enough about what I don't know to ask a question.

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davebdave wrote:I'm sure I will have questions and it sounds like you're a good person to ask.
Thanks, and I'd be happy to try and help. I get pretty weak in terms of knowledge once you move past 1978 spiders, but that's not an issue in this case.

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Wow steel lines are a PITA to bend and I'm not very good at it. I may need to install a few clamps to hold the lines clear of the driveshaft.

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OK, I was wrong: I also have never removed fuel and brake lines to the rear. In the front and on the rear axle, yes. Down the driveshaft tunnel, no.

Anyway, good work!

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FYI, the 1971 model year has unique tail lamps. If your purchase did not include these, start looking now, or consider a small amount of metal work to fit the shorter 1972-74 ones before going to paint.
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baltobernie wrote:FYI, the 1971 model year has unique tail lamps. If your purchase did not include these, start looking now, or consider a small amount of metal work to fit the shorter 1972-74 ones before going to paint.
Very true that. The tail lamps assemblies in mine were OK but not great, so I went with exactly this solution. The '71 lamp assemblies wrap around the rear-to-side crease ever so slightly, while the later ones do not.

Worked just fine, and while not original, I kind of like the yellow turn signal portion of the lens. My original '71 was all red (except for the backup light portion of the lens).

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Thanks for the info on the tail lights. I appear to have a good set of originals and possibly some reproductions.

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