burgandy81 Turbo Spider

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lanciahf
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Your car is a: 1984 Pinninfarina

burgandy81 Turbo Spider

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1980, 5spd
Stock 83 block and pistons
80 2 ltr head with a very mild port (removed casting flash, smoothed sharp edges of the combustion chamber, gasket port match) SS exhaust valves and new 3 angle grind, stock 1800 cams
FIAT Chroma turbo head gasket
Marks head stud kit
Megasquirt
450cc DSM (first gen) injectors
Toyota COP
Lancia 8V turbo manifold and FIAT spec garret T25.
2,5" downpipe connecting to stock exhaust at location of cat
8V Integrale intercooler
Marks performance clutch


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ORFORD2004
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What's that water pump?
burgandy81
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Your car is a: 1981 FIAT Spider 2000
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What's that water pump?
Lanica Scorpion/Montecarlo with a custom elbow. It seems to work OK but the clearances are tight!

If I had known about it, I would have strongly considered the electric water pump from Allisons.
burgandy81
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Where did you get the crank pulley from?
Millers Mule back when they existed. Jason Miller was a fantastic resource. The shop is no longer running as far as I can tell.

I do not know of another source although 36-1 tooth wheels are readily available online.
ORFORD2004
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If I had known about it, I would have strongly considered the electric water pump from Allisons.
Don't tell anybody :|
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Electric-Water ... 1438.l2649
burgandy81
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Don't tell anybody :|
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Electric-Water ... 1438.l2649
Yes!

And if you have MS, it seems you can use the MS as a controller.

In a perfect world, it would be wired to run for a minute or so after shut down to help with even cooling.

I really think this is a better solution for cooling as you can control for flow based on temperatures and NOT engine speed. For example, sitting at idle after a hard run and the electric water pump can be set to high to keep the engine cool. And the pump can be set to low (or pulse) it cold environments with moderate engine speed.

Some readings I have done suggest removing the thermostat and using pump speed and pulse to provide a much more control to the cooling system.
ORFORD2004
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I think that you will need the controller and yes you remove thermostat. And they ship to Canada. :D
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I could not get the electric water pump to fit in my '70 with 1438. Tried and tried, bought all sorts of elbows etc but no luck - and maybe just my lack of abilities. My car has the alternator and battery on passenger side and just could not place it right - so would take suction. Gave it away to someone. I really think the idea is great - on engines with more space on the passenger side.
burgandy81
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I could not get the electric water pump to fit in my '70 with 1438. Tried and tried, bought all sorts of elbows etc but no luck - and maybe just my lack of abilities. My car has the alternator and battery on the passenger side and just could not place it right - so would take suction. Gave it away to someone. I really think the idea is great - on engines with more space on the passenger side.
Thanks! That makes me feel a bit better about all the grief that went into making the Scorpion pump work!
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Looks good. How easy was the Lancia intake manifold installation?
burgandy81
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Looks good. How easy was the Lancia intake manifold installation?
Thanks!

It was easy although you need to be careful to get the correct manifold as many FWD Lancia manifolds look similar. I believe this one is from a Dedra.

All the basics are the same, bolt pattern, injector angle, port spacing, etc.

I also had an Integrale manifold and the inlet angle (where the TB mounts) was different and contacted the cam wheels. If you can weld cast aluminum you could make this work. In the end, a modified Integrale unit may be a good choice as it would provide some control over TB angle and therefore provide greater clearance for the rad inlet hose.

Even the Dedra unit I have is VERY close. See pictures above, I had to cut away some of the timing belt cover.
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