New Cold Air Box for the Coupe
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New Cold Air Box for the Coupe
Here is the cold air box on the coupe!
Made from composite (light weight) materials, takes air from in front of the radiator with a 3” tube, passes through a modified filter box and air filter from a BMW 850, feeds air into the side and middle of the box, mid-way between and above the horns, has the PCV hose feeding into the air tube upstream of the air filter so it provides vacuum, cleans the air and cools it before entering the box, and has a one way valve that will open to relieve pressure in the box in the event of the odd cold start backfire.
It also uses every bit of available space while still allowing access to the idle mixture screws and inter-carb linkage with the box mounted, and BEST of all, it really quiets the carbs down incredibly well, with no perceivable loss in power! Had it to 115 MPH indicated with no problem, running at 6800 rpms in 5th. And it runs as smooth as can be,and I really like the combined exhaust note and carb wail at speed!
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Now to the dyno to finish dialing it in. Really happy with the results, and kudos to Jason MIller of MIllers Mule on a great design and handiwork. If you are running dual IDFs on your motor – you want one of these one-of-a-kind boxes!
Jeff
Made from composite (light weight) materials, takes air from in front of the radiator with a 3” tube, passes through a modified filter box and air filter from a BMW 850, feeds air into the side and middle of the box, mid-way between and above the horns, has the PCV hose feeding into the air tube upstream of the air filter so it provides vacuum, cleans the air and cools it before entering the box, and has a one way valve that will open to relieve pressure in the box in the event of the odd cold start backfire.
It also uses every bit of available space while still allowing access to the idle mixture screws and inter-carb linkage with the box mounted, and BEST of all, it really quiets the carbs down incredibly well, with no perceivable loss in power! Had it to 115 MPH indicated with no problem, running at 6800 rpms in 5th. And it runs as smooth as can be,and I really like the combined exhaust note and carb wail at speed!
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Now to the dyno to finish dialing it in. Really happy with the results, and kudos to Jason MIller of MIllers Mule on a great design and handiwork. If you are running dual IDFs on your motor – you want one of these one-of-a-kind boxes!
Jeff
Re: New Cold Air Box for the Coupe
Looks real good and the Abarth Valve covers look amazing !
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Re: New Cold Air Box for the Coupe
Damn nice! I look forward to dyno results. Would you mind posting a few more engine shots?
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This is all I have right now.
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Re: New Cold Air Box for the Coupe
Will you be driving it to Freak Out again?
Looks great. Fine work and development by you and Jason.
Karl
Looks great. Fine work and development by you and Jason.
Karl
Karl
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1969 Fiat 850 Sports Coupe
1970 Fiat 124 Sports Coupe
1985 Bertone X1/9
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Re: New Cold Air Box for the Coupe
I think the drive to Charlottesvilles is a day too long for our Houston club, especially in the heat of summer. If we get a caravan together, I'll do the trip, as my first FFO was the 1992 meeting at Charlottesville. I still have the trophy the coupe won at that meet! The guys at IAP did a great job.
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Re: New Cold Air Box for the Coupe
It deserves another, I really enjoyed seeing it in North Carolina two years ago. I can understand the iron butt issue. Presumably with carbs it will be an easier ride next time.
Karl
Karl
Karl
1969 Fiat 850 Sports Coupe
1970 Fiat 124 Sports Coupe
1985 Bertone X1/9
1969 Fiat 850 Sports Coupe
1970 Fiat 124 Sports Coupe
1985 Bertone X1/9
Re: New Cold Air Box for the Coupe
Here's the start of a write-up on the design, construction, and installation of Jeff's airbox: Fiat Coupe Weber Airbox (Part 1)
Re: New Cold Air Box for the Coupe
This is really nice. Jason, are you going to make some more and will it fit a 124 spider with dual IDF ?
Thanks
Thanks
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Re: New Cold Air Box for the Coupe
Nice write up. Looking forward to part 2
Karl
Karl
Karl
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Re: New Cold Air Box for the Coupe
Really nice work Jeff and Jason! It looks like it could be a stock item,it fits so well.I really hope you can make it to FFO. The venue should be great!
Craig Nelson
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1982 Spider 2000...pride and joy
1981 Fiat X1/9..gone but not forgotten
1976 124 Spider..the self-healer
2001 BMW 328ci daily driver and track car
Fling It Around Turns !
Re: New Cold Air Box for the Coupe
It is something I plan to put into production. I need to check if the spacing between the webers is the same from the manifold on the coupe and the original waffle manifold. That shouldn't make much of a difference on the airbox, other than machining the baseplate to account for the difference.
The spider will be very similar, the airbox portion will probably be identical. The filterbox, however, will have to be a little different as there is a little less room, and the snorkel arrangement will have to change.
In production though, I expect the box to be much lighter, probably 70% as heavy as the prototype.
The spider will be very similar, the airbox portion will probably be identical. The filterbox, however, will have to be a little different as there is a little less room, and the snorkel arrangement will have to change.
In production though, I expect the box to be much lighter, probably 70% as heavy as the prototype.
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Re: New Cold Air Box for the Coupe
Jason, very nice work.
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Re: New Cold Air Box for the Coupe
Jason,
Nice work! What is the clearance between the top of the box and the weber air horns? Or, should I say, what is the max length air horn you could fit under there?
Nice work! What is the clearance between the top of the box and the weber air horns? Or, should I say, what is the max length air horn you could fit under there?
Ted
1978 124 Spider, Complete Restoration
1974 Fiat 124 F Production Race car
1978 124 Spider, Complete Restoration
1974 Fiat 124 F Production Race car