Slow Starting

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dinosabella
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Your car is a: 1977 Fiat 124 Spider

Slow Starting

Post by dinosabella »

I noticed that my spider takes much more time on startup as of late (cranking is longer). Once started it runs fine and I would say the starter speed also seems normal.

I do have a parasidic power drain (batt looses charge over night) that I need to source, however, the starting is slow even when the battery is fully charged.

I was wondering what servicable parts of my ignition I should be replacing. I have a 77 that was converted to electronic ignition about 15 years ago. The work was done by a very reputable shop in Montreal and I had no issues till last year. The ignition was sourced from an 82 FI car and I have never changed the cap, rotor, magnetic pickup or coil. (plugs and wires are recent). I also plan on using some carb cleaners just to make sure my problem isnt fuel.

Aside from replacing the servicable ignition parts I mentionned above are there any recomendations?
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Your car is a: 1981 Spider 2000
Location: Wallingford,CT

Re: Slow Starting

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I do have a parasidic power drain (batt looses charge over night)
Fuses 9 and 10 protect many of the "hot all the time" circuits in the car. There are others that are not protected. Have you removed fuses 9 and 10 to see if that removes the battery drain?

As far as the slow starting goes, that could have many causes. I believe the solid state ignitions need at least 10 volts measured at the coils B+ terminal when the engine is cranking. If that voltage is lower than 10 volts the ignition may not produce the proper spark. Does the car seem to start the instant the key is released from the start position. If so it could be eith low voltage or a failing ignition switch.
18Fiatsandcounting
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Your car is a: 1969 and 1971 124 spiders
Location: San Francisco Bay Area

Re: Slow Starting

Post by 18Fiatsandcounting »

Dino, I'd pursue what spider2081 mentions above, and I'll also ask: What model carburetor do you have, and what type of choke (electric, thermostatic, manual)? Any chance that the choke has stopped working correctly?

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kilrwail
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Your car is a: 1978 Fiat 124 Sport Spider
Location: Perth, Ontario

Re: Slow Starting

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Do you still have a mechanical fuel pump? They are always harder to start, which will get worse if it's failing.
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