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Motor question, I guess this is as good a place to ask....

Posted: Tue Sep 03, 2019 8:36 pm
by tonys1980124
Anyone know how much the motor weighs?

Re: Motor question, I guess this is as good a place to ask....

Posted: Wed Sep 04, 2019 10:21 am
by 18Fiatsandcounting
It depends on the model year (engine size) and how many other items are attached such as smog equipment, alternator, manifolds, fuel injection or carb, etc.

Having hauled around these engines by hand, I would guess 200 lbs for the block, 100 lbs for the cylinder head and manifolds, and then another 100 lbs for all the other stuff like was listed above. So, a relatively bare block and cylinder head, 300 lbs. With everything still on the engine, 400 lbs.

This does not include the weight of the transmission or starter motor.

-Bryan

Re: Motor question, I guess this is as good a place to ask....

Posted: Wed Sep 04, 2019 6:52 pm
by tonys1980124
that's what my dad was thinking.

Re: Motor question, I guess this is as good a place to ask....

Posted: Thu Sep 05, 2019 8:17 am
by aj81spider
I'm no expert, and could be completely wrong. However that seems way too heavy for me. I pulled the engine (1.8 liter from a '74) and put it onto this:

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Two (normal) people grabbing the handles were able to lift the engine and put it in the back of an SUV for transport. There's no way we were each lifting 200 lbs. I'm guessing the engine was no more than 150.

I've also pulled the head on my car several times and lifted it out of the engine bay by myself. There's no way it is 100 lbs. I'm guessing no more than 50, maybe less.

Again - could be completely wrong, but that's my experience.

Re: Motor question, I guess this is as good a place to ask....

Posted: Thu Sep 05, 2019 8:25 am
by aj81spider
Found a picture of the motor on the carrier. Two, not particularly strong people lifted this into the SUV.

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Re: Motor question, I guess this is as good a place to ask....

Posted: Thu Sep 05, 2019 12:42 pm
by 18Fiatsandcounting
aj81spider wrote:I'm no expert, and could be completely wrong. However that seems way too heavy for me.
Two (normal) people grabbing the handles were able to lift the engine and put it in the back of an SUV for transport. There's no way we were each lifting 200 lbs. I'm guessing the engine was no more than 150.

I've also pulled the head on my car several times and lifted it out of the engine bay by myself. There's no way it is 100 lbs. I'm guessing no more than 50, maybe less.

Again - could be completely wrong, but that's my experience.
A.J., you might be right, and I was being cautious in my original estimate in case the original post was to "right size" a lifting arrangement or purchase a hoist or the like. If that's the case, I'd suggest an engineering safety factor of at least 1.5X, and if it were me, I'd use 2X. So, 400 lbs fully loaded might be high, but in searching the web, I see numbers from 250 lbs to 400 lbs for the Fiat twin cam. I'm now kinda thinking 300+ lbs total for the block, cylinder head, manifolds (cast iron exhaust), carb/fuel injection, flywheel, clutch, alternator, smog, etc.

-Bryan