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"Put Away" Time

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Well, almost. Certainly thinking about it.

This week? Next? That'll depend on the weather. If a good weekend is predicted I'll put it off.

Last year at this time I raised the mouse issue. I store my car off-season in an old car shed elsewhere on my property -- and not easily reachable once the snow start to fall. In other words I kiss her goodnight and don't see her again until "morning." I.e., Spring. And the mice -- well they always have taken up residence Some years just a few, others enough to start a township.

Well last year I tried something different. I put mouse/rat poison -- the type that comes in bricks -- in plastic container (the ones sandwich meats come in) and put three in the car. One in the trunk, one on the floor of the passenger compartment, and one in the glove box. Results. Zero mice. No, no dead ones either.

Needless to say I will be doing the same this year.

I used to have a very thorough pre-storage ritual. Change this and that, fog cylinders, all the common blah-blah-blah. Did that for the Spider and my several Ducati motorcycles for years and years. Then I stopped doing all that. The results are no different (its been about ten or so years since I 'went easy').

I know this is not "approved" and each can weigh and evaluate for themselves, but now here is all I do:

1) Fill up the gas tank. Add fuel preservative and drive enough to get it through the system (a couple of miles).
2) Drive the car to the shed.
3) Put in the mouse poison. (as well as a few 'pieces' outside the car near the wheels)
4) Put some stainless-steel "wool" into the exhaust pipe. (This to keep vermin from nesting there)
5) Remove the battery -- bring it to the main garage and put it on a smart charger.
6) Cover the car with a fitted cover.

That's it. Well apart from the good night kiss.

Come Spring I put in the battery, start her up (typically takes two cranks), and check the air pressure (it, amazingly, is typically still fine), stick on the updated registration stickers, and drive.

My car is a `77 with about 125,000 miles.

-Don

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I drive my car year round (nice days only), so I don't really put it away. But I did read one time about using plastic wrap and a rubber band over the end of the exhaust tip(s) to prevent condensation from accumulating in the pipe over the winter. You would ideally do your drive to circulate the fuel preservative (which would clear out any existing moisture), and then once the exhaust was cool enough to touch you'd do cap it with the plastic wrap. It will theoretically keep out the vermin too.
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Any problem with flat spots on your tires? Would it be a good idea to store it on stands?
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No worries about 'flat spots' with radial tires. Only the bias-ply had the problem.

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lglade wrote: I did read one time about using plastic wrap and a rubber band over the end of the exhaust tip(s) to prevent condensation from accumulating in the pipe over the winter.
Winter air here in NH is very dry.

My general rule is to open things for circulation not seal thing against moisture. Even my car shed has latticed openings across one lower wall.

Obviously one must consider their own storage environment. Sitting moisture is a very bad thing. :)

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I start the car and run it for at least 15 minutes or so every couple of weeks, drive around the block a few times if no salt or snow, in order to drive the moisture out of the nooks and crannies, and warm up the oil enough to drive moisture out of that too.
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What is the brand name of the rat poison that you are using? RB
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Nitrate wrote:What is the brand name of the rat poison that you are using? RB

RAMIK Bars.

https://www.amazon.com/NEOGEN-RODENTICI ... B0051SVAMI

Works well. (I use it in my home as well as the garage. Just at this time of year when the mice start looking for a nice, warm, comfy home for Winter.)

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RRoller123 wrote:I start the car and run it for at least 15 minutes or so every couple of weeks, drive around the block a few times if no salt or snow, in order to drive the moisture out of the nooks and crannies, and warm up the oil enough to drive moisture out of that too.
I agree with the OP's minimalist approach for a single winter's storage, and I also do what RRoller123 does - periodic running. Some folks think that starting it over the winter does more harm than good, but I think that's only the case if you don't run it long enough.
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Exactly, get it good and warm, fully up to temp throughout the system.
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Note on the use of rat poison.
I'm sure there are different types, but most that I've seen, and the one I once used, required that the rat eat it, then drink water to activate the poison. Make sure, that if you use this type, that the water is well away from the car and even the building or structure that houses it.
They get real stinky in a short time. Also larger critters will eat it, and they stink worse!

Only 6 1/2 months still Spring! 8)

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cute. i drive every day, rain or shine. this is the best daily driver of any older car i have ever had. well, maybe the 911sc might have been slightly better, but this is close. :lol:
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autotransgression wrote:cute. i drive every day, rain or shine. this is the best daily driver of any older car i have ever had. well, maybe the 911sc might have been slightly better, but this is close. :lol:
I take it there's not much snow or road salt in Seattle. ;-)

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Ha! While I do feel bad for you guys, because I've been there, I'm just glad it's not 115 here everyday.

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DUCeditor wrote:
lglade wrote: I did read one time about using plastic wrap and a rubber band over the end of the exhaust tip(s) to prevent condensation from accumulating in the pipe over the winter.
Winter air here in NH is very dry.

My general rule is to open things for circulation not seal thing against moisture. Even my car shed has latticed openings across one lower wall.

Obviously one must consider their own storage environment. Sitting moisture is a very bad thing. :)

-don
Remember the brand new 1957 Plymouth Belvedere they sealed up in a time capsule which was opened up in 2007? Their efforts to preserve it are what destroyed it. When it came out of the acid bath to remove the rust there was so little of the car left that it almost collapsed.

"The Plymouth was sprayed with cosmoline, wrapped in plastic, and buried in a concrete tomb, placed on a steel plate so the wheels were off the ground. Stuffed in the trunk were five gallons of gasoline in glass jugs, oil, a case of beer, and other artifacts. Placed inside the glove compartment at the last minute were the contents of a woman’s purse containing fourteen bobby pins, a ladies compact, plastic rain cap, combs, a tube of lipstick, pack of gum, facial tissues, $2.73 in money, and a pack of cigarettes. Also placed in were unpaid parking tickets and a bottle of tranquilizers which the winner of the car may need. During the party in 1957, residents were asked to guess the population of Tulsa in 2007; the guesses were sealed in a steel container and placed in the car. The winner or their heir will receive the Plymouth and a $100 trust fund which was accruing interest since 1957"

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Maybe Catherine the closest surviving relative to the person who guessed what the population of Tulsa would be at the time of the unveiling needed the tranquilizers.
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