Fog Lights Alternative

[DoctorPDR]

http://www.fiatspider.de/index.php?opti ... il&id=2716

Well, I'll be embarrassed to admit that these lights do NOT work. I ordered a pair of VW Golf 3 turn signals and after removing all the plastic clips and taking my Dremel to shave even more plastic, these will not and NEVER fit. I wasted $50.00, an hour of my time, and it just really pisses me off that people do not post the correct information.

So for everyone else, DO NOT BUY THESE BLINKERS. THEY WILL NOT WORK UNLESS YOU WANT TO START CUTTING THE METAL OF YOUR CAR!

That sucks! I almost bought a pair myself after reading the post on the car with them in Germany. Are they just way too big?

Rick

The ones that don't work are from the VW Golf 3 Rick, and yes they are a centimeter too wide. The pictures I posted are from a Mitsubishi Colt and those do work, IF you can find a pair.

[Snoopy]

I asked Armin again and he is sure he used a german/european turnsignal of the Golf 3 without cutting the car...
I search for the partnumbers of the german and US Golf 3.
Maybe the turnsignal in german/european version is another then in the US-version.

EDIT:
Yes i found the bumpers are different ! And the turnsignals are different !
The german are only turnsignals and the US are turnsignal and parkinglight. I cant find the exact sizes, but i think that could be/is the problem. If your are interested i can take the exakt size (if our neighbour with the Golf 3 is here... ). Sorry that i need some time to remember that typical problem...

[DoctorPDR]

I asked Armin again and he is sure he used a german/european turnsignal of the Golf 3 without cutting the car...
I search for the partnumbers of the german and US Golf 3.
Maybe the turnsignal in german/european version is another then in the US-version.

EDIT:
Yes i found the bumpers are different ! And the turnsignals are different !
The german are only turnsignals and the US are turnsignal and parkinglight. I cant find the exact sizes, but i think that could be/is the problem. If your are interested i can take the exakt size (if our neighbour with the Golf 3 is here... ). Sorry that i need some time to remember that typical problem...

No need to take measurements because I will not be wasting my time with this anymore. Would have been nice to have known BEFORE I spent 50 bucks and wasted my time.

[ROOK1]

This thread actually started out to be "Fog light alternative" but it seems to have turned into a turn signal thread.

Doc, the main question is. What is the look you are going for? If you are going to go with no bumper then Mark's light kit is probably the best option you are going to find. Here is his link.

http://www.allisonsautomotive.com/products.html

If you are going to go with an Abarth block or other "bumper" that uses the original bumper hole then you need to find another solution. Here are a couple of them.

http://www.thehoffmangroup.com/autoloc/ ... headlights

This is for a '65 '66 Mustang. I believe this would be a good solution if mounted low because of the angle.
http://www.mustangpartshouse.com/exteri ... it-LH.html

[DoctorPDR]

This thread actually started out to be "Fog light alternative" but it seems to have turned into a turn signal thread.

Doc, the main question is. What is the look you are going for? If you are going to go with no bumper then Mark's light kit is probably the best option you are going to find. Here is his link.

http://www.allisonsautomotive.com/products.html

If you are going to go with an Abarth block or other "bumper" that uses the original bumper hole then you need to find another solution. Here are a couple of them.

http://www.thehoffmangroup.com/autoloc/ ... headlights

This is for a '65 '66 Mustang. I believe this would be a good solution if mounted low because of the angle.
http://www.mustangpartshouse.com/exteri ... it-LH.html

Yah, I know this tread started as something different. I actually used the search and it gave me this thread and a couple of others.

Anyway, I originally wanted to use the empty (outside) holes for turn signals, since the inside holes are being used for my Abarth bumpers (bonnets). I have looked at the Snake Eyes with turn signals incorporated in them. I do like them, but my primary concern if I should buy this set is having to re-wire my headlights with relays, different wiring, etc. If it's a simple project (nothing really is) I would have no problem doing it. Electrical is my only weak point, although I can do basic stuff like hooking up a toggle switch for the radiator fan, radio electrical (basic stuff), etc.

As far as the 65-66 blinkers, isn't that what Mark uses with his kits? If so, they utilize the inside holes and they do me no good. Mine are already being used with the Abarth bumpers. If not, what do you mean about "mounting them low enough?" You lost me on that one.

Thanks for your input ROOK1!

[wachuko]

Nothing wrong with the hijack I need a solution for the signals as well. I also have the same situation as DoctorPDR since I will be using an early bumper or Abarth styled bumpers. So the solution that Mark has does not look like an alternative in our case.

[ROOK1]

Mark may be using the 65-66 Mustang lights but I dont know. As for the mouinting down low comment. If you look at the picture you can see that the back of the light has a taper to it. I know the Mustang bidy curves similar to the Spider and they are mounted low on the Mustang. It may be perfect for the area Mark uses but it would probably work down low where the body curves a bit too.

[DoctorPDR]

Mark may be using the 65-66 Mustang lights but I dont know. As for the mouinting down low comment. If you look at the picture you can see that the back of the light has a taper to it. I know the Mustang bidy curves similar to the Spider and they are mounted low on the Mustang. It may be perfect for the area Mark uses but it would probably work down low where the body curves a bit too.

And where are you mounting these lights at ROOK?

[ROOK1]

[quote="DoctorPDR And where are you mounting these lights at ROOK?[/quote]

I'm not, but here is where they mount on the Mustang. Not as much of a curve as I remember, more out than down so they should mount nicely in the bumper hole or in a new hole of your choosing.

[DoctorPDR]

[quote="DoctorPDR And where are you mounting these lights at ROOK?

I'm not, but here is where they mount on the Mustang. Not as much of a curve as I remember, more out than down so they should mount nicely in the bumper hole or in a new hole of your choosing.

[/quote]

I can see already that these lights would not work in the outside holes as I indicated, only the inside holes where my bumpers are located. Thanks for all your input anyway.

[wachuko]

Since this turned into a Fog lights AND turn signal thread

I am thinking of keeping it simple and just use the factory units. Turn them 90 degress and fixed them in place. The rest of the space I was thinking of just making it into a brake duct setup.

Now, I know that the brakes suck, and a brake duct would be useless... but that does not need to stop us from bragging about having brake ducts, right?

[azygoustoyou]

I saw a spider with the mustang lights fixed to the square hole. He filled it in and mounted them there. It looked awesome. I got the pic from Lanciaf. I can't find it though. I need reverse lights. I was thinking of trying the set up the mustang has. But I'm not sure if the curve is right in the back. All the lights I have searched are either to big (4") or to thick. We only have about 1 1/2" clearance in the back valance area.

[TulsaSpider]

I am curious too I want to put back up lights in to fill the back bumper holes.

[htchevyii]

Here's a freind's 78 with Mustang lights and filled square holes and marker lamps:

[azygoustoyou]

Wow his car sits really low.