building a 1438 stocker for a 68 124 spider.

ventura ace · Post by **ventura ace** » Sun Mar 19, 2006 8:29 pm

My restriction problem was from connecting the big vapor hose to those little tiny rinky-dink ports that they put on the aftermarket filters. I Tee'd off the big hose to go to both air filters, but even then I had less than half the area of the big diameter hose. It probably didn't create too much of a back pressure though, because I didn't experience any leaks anywhere else, except for the oil that excaped when the dipstick seal opened up -- and like I said, the dipstick seal is too loose.

Look at pictures in some of your manuals. Here is a link from FiatCenter.com that shows schematically: http://volcano.photobucket.com/albums/v ... o_74_2.jpg

And another link from FiatCenter.com showing a picure:
http://volcano.photobucket.com/albums/v ... system.jpg

alvon

spiderrey · Post by **spiderrey** » Sun Mar 19, 2006 8:36 pm

my ex always said i like to do things azz backwards. i guess this just proves it. hope my pistons arent upside down. lol well thanx i guess i need to flip that thing around. no hurry, that cars in limbo. motor might sit in the garage a while. still need to figure out the alternator. and find a fan and fan clutch.

ventura ace · Post by **ventura ace** » Sun Mar 19, 2006 11:33 pm

Put the water pump on azz backwards, and you may not need a fan or clutch!! LOL.

I think we've all done a few things backwards now and then. You're not alone.

alvon

spiderrey · Post by **spiderrey** » Sun Mar 19, 2006 11:55 pm

that might work. its only a 1438. shouldnt get that hot.

spiderrey · Post by **spiderrey** » Mon Mar 20, 2006 10:18 pm

well alvon i guess i actually wasnt wrong.

bandit · Post by **bandit** » Tue Mar 21, 2006 12:53 am

Rey

Is the fan that your looking for the one that run's off the water pump ?
and is the clutch on the crank pully or the water pump like american
cars ? I've seen the wierd older pully on the crank shaft so that must
be the clutch for a 1438 fan ??
If so i might be able to get a used one for you from a friend that has a
1438 sitting around along with a few other engines .

Dan

So Cal Mark · Post by **So Cal Mark** » Tue Mar 21, 2006 1:10 am

that is an oil filter on the crank pulley, not a clutch. The fan and clutch that Rey needs goes onto the water pump shaft, held on with a nut and key

ventura ace · Post by **ventura ace** » Tue Mar 21, 2006 7:31 am

Rey, your picture show that the vapors enter the center of the cyclonic trap. The other links suggest the opposite, vapors entering on the outer perimeter, creating a swirling action. Do you see the difference? It may work just as well either way, I don't know. But, if I were you, I would connect it the other way.

alvon

spiderrey · Post by **spiderrey** » Tue Mar 21, 2006 7:39 pm

yeah i know. mark and i looked at it from the inside. dosent look klike it would make much of a diference. ill turn it anyway.

spiderrey · Post by **spiderrey** » Wed Apr 05, 2006 6:15 pm

finally got the fan and fan clutch. i will clean them up before actual installation.

spiderrey · Post by **spiderrey** » Sat May 27, 2006 6:19 pm

chris came over today, we figured we could finally put the engine back in the car and get it running this weekend. had the engine almost in when chris noticed something leaking at the rear of the engine.. we took the engine back out, removed the clutch and flywheel. when we thilted the engine towards the rear, oil poured out at the seal. damn it, if we didnt get the wrong seal. now the weekend is shot.

mdrburchette · Post by **mdrburchette** » Sun May 28, 2006 6:46 am

What a bummer! At least you found the problem before you completely installed the engine.

So Cal Mark · Post by **So Cal Mark** » Sun May 28, 2006 10:50 am

got him fixed up with the right seal last night, so there's no excuse not to finish it this weekend!

spiderrey · Post by **spiderrey** » Sun May 28, 2006 2:20 pm

well, i installed the new seal, and reinstalled the clutch and flywheel. if chris shows up again this weekend, ill drop the motor in...

spiderrey · Post by **spiderrey** » Tue May 30, 2006 4:10 pm

THE MOTOR IS IN! now we just need to hook up the small stuff. boy was it hot in the sun today.