My Custom Dash
- DUCeditor
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My Custom Dash
There was very little about my `77 Spider's appearance as it came from the factory that I didn't like. The two exceptions were the 13 inch pressed metal wheels (which I replaced early on with 14 inch Panasports) and the visually complex central portion of the dash.
This later I "fixed" by remaking the dash into a two-piece design, all wood.
I used plywood as a base as this, I had been told, would be less likely crack with temperature extremes. Over this I applied a veneer of mahogany purchased at a woodworking/furniture making shop.
My goad was to match the wood tone to that of the steering wheel. The fellow in the shop looked at that and told me the secret of its slightly yellow cast was aged marine varnish. (The car was then about ten years old and had baked for the first nine in the Florida sun).
To help assure a matching run of grain from left to right I cut the wood as a single piece, using the original three pieces as a guide, and to this I affixed and stained the veneer. Only afterward did I make the cut that separated the glove box door from the instrument panel portion. Finally I applied several coats of the recommended marine varnish.
I counter sunk the thin threaded fasteners used to hold the electric switches in the central portion and then covered this with black painted washers of an appropriate size found at a hardware store. These washers were held on with a drop of glue - not a perfect solution I know - but they have held on for now over twenty years.
I like the final appearance a lot. The only thing that would have improved it, IMO, is quite frankly if someone with greater skill had done the wood working.
Oh, and as to the color... Did it "yellow" as expected? Yes. But alas the steering wheel has continued to yellow more as well and so the color is still not an absolutely perfect match.
BTW, I at the same time did the upper and lower center console using the same materials and approach, including putting wood where originally there was what I assume was meant to be a speaker grill.
-don
This later I "fixed" by remaking the dash into a two-piece design, all wood.
I used plywood as a base as this, I had been told, would be less likely crack with temperature extremes. Over this I applied a veneer of mahogany purchased at a woodworking/furniture making shop.
My goad was to match the wood tone to that of the steering wheel. The fellow in the shop looked at that and told me the secret of its slightly yellow cast was aged marine varnish. (The car was then about ten years old and had baked for the first nine in the Florida sun).
To help assure a matching run of grain from left to right I cut the wood as a single piece, using the original three pieces as a guide, and to this I affixed and stained the veneer. Only afterward did I make the cut that separated the glove box door from the instrument panel portion. Finally I applied several coats of the recommended marine varnish.
I counter sunk the thin threaded fasteners used to hold the electric switches in the central portion and then covered this with black painted washers of an appropriate size found at a hardware store. These washers were held on with a drop of glue - not a perfect solution I know - but they have held on for now over twenty years.
I like the final appearance a lot. The only thing that would have improved it, IMO, is quite frankly if someone with greater skill had done the wood working.
Oh, and as to the color... Did it "yellow" as expected? Yes. But alas the steering wheel has continued to yellow more as well and so the color is still not an absolutely perfect match.
BTW, I at the same time did the upper and lower center console using the same materials and approach, including putting wood where originally there was what I assume was meant to be a speaker grill.
-don
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Re: My Custom Dash
Very nice dash and layout... I like!
But seriously... you need to send that clock in to me for restoration... it detracts from an otherise nice dash!
Overall it looks great...
Nick
But seriously... you need to send that clock in to me for restoration... it detracts from an otherise nice dash!
Overall it looks great...
Nick
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Re: My Custom Dash
I plan to do that Nick. But not at least until this driving season is over. The set-up makes removing and reinstalling the instrument panel a little more complex than it otherwise would have been.radiopilot wrote:Very nice dash and layout... I like!
But seriously... you need to send that clock in to me for restoration... it detracts from an otherise nice dash!
Overall it looks great...
Nick
Oh, and is it you who cleans and refurbishes all the instruments, or is that another member? Depending the the costs involved that might be worthwhile as well.
-don
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Re: My Custom Dash
Yes Don it's me... you can check with others on the costs involved and you'll see it's very reasonable. You can send me a PM later when you're ready... best time is when the car is put away for the Winter driving season.DUCeditor wrote:
Oh, and is it you who cleans and refurbishes all the instruments, or is that another member? Depending the the costs involved that might be worthwhile as well.
-don
I also thought about doing what you did with the dash and made a blank out of form board... but somehow it needs a break or something to change the solid look of the dash.
Cheers...
Nick
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while it does look nice, I think the cluster of gauges on the left begs for more complexity in the center since the wood is now one piece. It just looks like some things were left out.
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Funny! You're not alone. That's almost exactly what Adam said when he first saw another man.So Cal Mark wrote:while it does look nice ... It just looks like some things were left out.
-nod
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and then Adam and his new friend went hand-in-hand to find a state they could marry in?
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Very nice dash and I agree with Mark. Needs a bit more balance. Maybe you could sneak something in the exisiting holes and relocate the switches? I added a couple of gauges which may not be to everyones taste but does look reasonably decent. I also had Nick do my clock which makes the other gauges look like crap. I did modify my center and radio console.
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Nice dash and console Jim.SpiderJim wrote:Very nice dash and I agree with Mark. Needs a bit more balance. Maybe you could sneak something in the exisiting holes and relocate the switches?
I think that "balance" is somewhat determined by expectation. No one, for instance, has expressed concern that the visual weight is all on the left. No, we expect the glove box area to be uncluttered and so see it as "balanced."
My own expectations are based on my early ownership experience. That was on a Fiat 1500. It had a definite left sided bias and so that appears right to me until this day.
Funny critters we human beings.
-don
Italian motorcycles. An Italian car. An Italian wife. What more could a man desire?
Re: My Custom Dash
Simple is best. But if you think its a bit boring or missing something kinda look. I'd leave it and put a Pininfarina logo or Fiat 124 logo or something to that taste on top of the two center gauges. That would spice it up and it would have the Original appeal
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Re: My Custom Dash
Lots of nice wood so I thought I would share my alternative to the wood. This is the polished aluminum dash for my v6 spider that contains a complete set of Autometer phantom gauges. The glovebox has its own matching polished aluminum panel to match.
http://www.v6spider.com
4.3L V6 Powered 1972 124 FIAT Spider
4.3L V6 Powered 1972 124 FIAT Spider
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Re: My Custom Dash
That does look really cool. However, I ditched my chrome-spoked steering wheel because of the blinding reflection I got from the sun at certain times of day. I imagine you are going to have a similar issue.v6spider wrote:Lots of nice wood so I thought I would share my alternative to the wood. This is the polished aluminum dash for my v6 spider that contains a complete set of Autometer phantom gauges. The glovebox has its own matching polished aluminum panel to match.
-- se
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Re: My Custom Dash
I'm afraid it would blind the hell outa me.......
Re: My Custom Dash
Nice dash V6 looks like you have room for 2 or 3 more gauges on the side !