Roll Bar

mbouse · Post by **mbouse** » Sun Nov 05, 2006 1:04 pm

Do all roll bars require cutting of the rear seat?

mdrburchette · Post by **mdrburchette** » Sun Nov 05, 2006 5:08 pm

I had one on mine that didn't require any modifications to any of the rear panels or seats. I wish I could tell you more, but I gave it to a local racer 10 years ago because I thought it was ugly. Now, every time this topic comes up I kick myself for doing so.

So Cal Mark · Post by **So Cal Mark** » Sun Nov 05, 2006 7:47 pm

most of them that I've seen haven't required cutting the seat, merely squishing the cushion in the corners to fit around the bar. I don't have a seat in my car since I'm going to put a flat panel in place, similar to the later cars

danny910 · Post by **danny910** » Tue Nov 07, 2006 8:50 pm

I'm also thinking of taking out the back seat & putting in a flat panel. anybody have pictures of it being done?

So Cal Mark · Post by **So Cal Mark** » Tue Nov 07, 2006 10:14 pm

the later Spiders came that way. Daytona Spyder sells an insert to replace the seat.

Mark_vaughn · Post by **Mark_vaughn** » Tue Nov 07, 2006 11:19 pm

danny910 wrote:I'm also thinking of taking out the back seat & putting in a flat panel. anybody have pictures of it being done?

I didn't put the board in but here is a pic of my seat removed. It is just cleaned up and insulated then carpet. If I were to do it again I would put more sound proofing. It is rather loud without the cushons to soak up some noise.

Jon · Post by **Jon** » Sun Nov 12, 2006 7:18 pm

I wanted to keep the look of the back seat (especially since my seat was just reupholstered!) and after looking at it I decided to not cut the seat, but cut about 5 inches out of the metal frame in the seat and the squishing the foam just a little bit around the roll bar.

If you want to keep the seat back there, I would highly suggest doing this. It took me about 5 minutes to do this 'project'.

fasterfiat · Post by **fasterfiat** » Thu Jan 11, 2007 7:56 pm

Buy one, it's cheaper

E Prod Racer · Post by **E Prod Racer** » Sun Jan 21, 2007 11:41 am

If anyone is interested, I can make you one like this. This is for my Stradale Replica, which is nearing completion.

http://www.macautosport.com/index.php?o ... itemId=255

So Cal Mark · Post by **So Cal Mark** » Sun Jan 21, 2007 12:36 pm

Hi Bill, nice to have you back on the forum. Very nice roll bars you're building. Do you have a price on them? Lead time?

E Prod Racer · Post by **E Prod Racer** » Sun Jan 21, 2007 12:58 pm

Mark,
This is the same bar I offerred about 3 years ago, for about $300-$350 plus shipping - got no real interest, and no orders. To construct, I will need to get a special mandrel die set from my Brother (the bends to match the Abarth hoop are very tight, and complex to make), or have him make the bar. Expect about 3-4 weeks ARO to make this up.

I have more pictures to post on the Stradale project. I left it to gather dust for the better part of 2 years, while I did some serious business building at MAC Autosport (http://www.macautosport.com). The stopper was an engine I built with some dodgy components, which resulted in a sump full of coolant - what a mess... Since then, with the chassis collecting dust, and the engine out, I rebuilt everything on the engine, paying very close attention to clearances, tolerances, and every aspect of the build (embarrassing, as I have built numerous TC race engines), and now I have a strong running engine. The rest of the chassis is in the process of a dry-build for proper fit, and then paint and assembly. Maybe sometime this year - MAC takes up most of my time - I will finally get the car on the road.

mdrburchette · Post by **mdrburchette** » Sun Jan 21, 2007 2:40 pm

Bill, do you have to do any cutting of the interior to install your rollbar? I need to install a rollbar in one of my Spiders to take a weekend racing course and would prefer not to cut the quarter panels. I could take the back seat out, so there would be no problem there.
I have to say, the price is good for a custom bar.

E Prod Racer · Post by **E Prod Racer** » Mon Jan 22, 2007 1:33 am

I'm not sure about any interior cutting needed to install this bar. In my Abarth Stradale replica, the rear seat area is finished off in carpet, like the original 124 Abarth, and much like the Pinin Spiders of '84-'85.

The rear seat components in the the stock Spiders are somewhat "moveable" in that they aren't that rigid. This bar mounts roughly at all 4 corners of the stock seat bottom. If the bar is welded into place and the seat bottom is forced into place, it should fit, with some distortion to the vinyl at the corners. Not absolutely positive about that, though.

I can say that the bar was designed to fit very closely under the soft top bows. Much closer than an Autopower. I also have one of those, if you are interested - $90, plus shipping from Denver.

mdrburchette · Post by **mdrburchette** » Mon Jan 22, 2007 6:14 am

Does the Autopower mount the same way? I'd be interested in it for a quick fix to get some track time, even though the car I'm using can't even get out of it's own way. They both should fit under a hardtop, shouldn't they? I know I can run the hardtop instead of a rollbar, but I basically use it for winter storage and the fiberglass and latches need reworked. Send me an email: spiderlady@earthlink.net

Thanks,
Denise

E Prod Racer · Post by **E Prod Racer** » Mon Jan 22, 2007 12:02 pm

Denise,
Message sent.

Roll Bar

Abarth Pattern Rollbar