Convertible top frame rattles

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TFichter
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Your car is a: 1982 Fiat 2000 spider
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Convertible top frame rattles

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My top frame rattles and I know exactly where. The problem is that the bolts that I need to tighten or lubricate will not budge. I have soaked them with WD-40. It feels like they might thread in reverse. Does anyone have an easy fix? The canvas is attached so I can't heat the frame with a torch and even a paint stripper heater might be a problem.
1982 Fiat 2000 Spider (2013- ?)
1973 BMW 3.0CS (owned 1991-2013)
1980 MGB (owned 1984-1991)
1973 BMW 2002 (owned 1987-1991)
1972 Fiat 124 Spider (owned 1974-1978)
18Fiatsandcounting
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Re: Convertible top frame rattles

Post by 18Fiatsandcounting »

I don't have an easy fix, but I think I know which bolts you're talking about. They are the ones that hold the "struts" of the top together, with a wide but shallow head. I think these bolts must have cut their own threads as they were initially screwed in at the factory, because many of them just refuse to come out. I've usually ended up grabbing the head with vise-grips and unscrewing, or even drilling them out, but then of course the bolts are destroyed. You can get new ones, or there are other options with regular bolts and various sleeves and washers.

I don't recall any of them being reverse threaded. Sorry I don't have a magic fix for your problem.

-Bryan
TFichter
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Re: Convertible top frame rattles

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Thank you Bryan! you are correct about which bolts are the problem bolts and you confirmed my fears. I probably will be drilling them out as you suggested if vice grips don't work. I'm planning on introducing thin nylon washers between the parts to stop the rattling.
1982 Fiat 2000 Spider (2013- ?)
1973 BMW 3.0CS (owned 1991-2013)
1980 MGB (owned 1984-1991)
1973 BMW 2002 (owned 1987-1991)
1972 Fiat 124 Spider (owned 1974-1978)
18Fiatsandcounting
Posts: 3799
Joined: Fri Mar 15, 2019 11:23 pm
Your car is a: 1969 and 1971 124 spiders
Location: San Francisco Bay Area

Re: Convertible top frame rattles

Post by 18Fiatsandcounting »

If you can get the old bolt(s) out without damaging the threads, AutoRicambi has new ones. See:

https://autoricambi.us

and search for "top frame bolt". They have both the 8 and 10mm versions, admittedly not especially cheap.

-Bryan
TFichter
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Joined: Tue Feb 26, 2013 11:43 pm
Your car is a: 1982 Fiat 2000 spider
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Re: Convertible top frame rattles

Post by TFichter »

Thanks Bryan...and yes they are not inexpensive but its always good to keep the car as "stock" as possible!
1982 Fiat 2000 Spider (2013- ?)
1973 BMW 3.0CS (owned 1991-2013)
1980 MGB (owned 1984-1991)
1973 BMW 2002 (owned 1987-1991)
1972 Fiat 124 Spider (owned 1974-1978)
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