What type of ignition system do you have?
- bran100
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What type of ignition system do you have?
I've rebuilt the motor on my '82 with lots of upgrades, but have yet to touch the ignition system. I'm even using the stock coil which I'm sure is hampering performance.
I really want one of Mark's Computronix systems, but I'm getting into the driving season, and considering they're still out of stock, I'm wondering what my plan B should be.
So what system are you using, and what are your recommendations?
I really want one of Mark's Computronix systems, but I'm getting into the driving season, and considering they're still out of stock, I'm wondering what my plan B should be.
So what system are you using, and what are your recommendations?
Brandon
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Re: What type of ignition system do you have?
You have a magnetic pickup (hall sensor) type distributor that was designed to use an outboard ignition module, like many other vehicles of the era. In particular, it's a GM-style 4-pin module.
So you have numerous options, including Crane XR700, XR3000, and Hi-6R, I believe MSD 6AL-2 as well. Unsure if Pertronix sells something for the late mag pickup ignition.
So you have numerous options, including Crane XR700, XR3000, and Hi-6R, I believe MSD 6AL-2 as well. Unsure if Pertronix sells something for the late mag pickup ignition.
- seabeelt
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Re: What type of ignition system do you have?
Highly recommend Mark's Computronics
Michael and Deborah Williamson
1971 Spider -Tropie’ - w screaming IDFs
1971 Spider - Vesper -scrapped
1979 Spider - Seraphina - our son's car now sold
1972 Spider - Tortellini- our son's current
1971 Spider -Tropie’ - w screaming IDFs
1971 Spider - Vesper -scrapped
1979 Spider - Seraphina - our son's car now sold
1972 Spider - Tortellini- our son's current
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Re: What type of ignition system do you have?
I have the Computronic on all three cars and they work really well (72 sport coupe with IDFs, '86 Bertone and '81 124 spider with FI). Wait for the cam box mounted model form Mark. There can be some fitment issues with the block mounted system if you are going to use a waffle manifold with IDFs.
Worth the wait.
Worth the wait.
- seabeelt
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Re: What type of ignition system do you have?
Yup, ran into that installing the dual IDFs. Had to remove the manifold studs from the block, put the manifold in place and then reinstall the studs and nuts. It was a head scratcher for sure.
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Michael and Deborah Williamson
1971 Spider -Tropie’ - w screaming IDFs
1971 Spider - Vesper -scrapped
1979 Spider - Seraphina - our son's car now sold
1972 Spider - Tortellini- our son's current
1971 Spider -Tropie’ - w screaming IDFs
1971 Spider - Vesper -scrapped
1979 Spider - Seraphina - our son's car now sold
1972 Spider - Tortellini- our son's current
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Re: What type of ignition system do you have?
Correct on the waffle manifold. That said, the block mounted model goes on fine with an Alquati type manifold. You may also have to bend your alternator bracket a bit, depending on what side you have it mounted. If you are in no hurry, I would wait for the cam box mounted model, as I understand these are nearly ready for shipping.
- RRoller123
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Re: What type of ignition system do you have?
The alternator bracket needs a compound bend to fit correctly, it takes a little figuring, but it will fit just fine after some finagling. You basically need to put three bends into it, and a little twist to get it to sit flush to the alternator mounting face. Also need to rotate and secure the oil dip stick.
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- azruss
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Re: What type of ignition system do you have?
I too have Mark's computronix ignition mounted in the block. As stated the alt mount needs to be bent to clear the unit. I don't know if that will be true of the new ones. I got rid of the long dip stick and modified it to fit in the block with no extension tube. I did have to put new high/low marks on it. I have a flat hood on a 2LFI and got rid of dizzy clearance issues. the system works great.
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Re: What type of ignition system do you have?
Yes, it definitely solves the hood problem. My distributor was always gouging the thermal padding on the underside of the hood.
In the bottom pic, I hadn't cut the tie-wrap end yet, but the dipstick tube is basically just swiveled 90 degrees CCW, and I attached it to the fuel rail with an insulated/padded strap connector. Works great! I don't believe the reading on the dipstick changes using this approach (?), since the angle it enters the crankcase, and the distance inserted remain the same after swiveling.
In the bottom pic, I hadn't cut the tie-wrap end yet, but the dipstick tube is basically just swiveled 90 degrees CCW, and I attached it to the fuel rail with an insulated/padded strap connector. Works great! I don't believe the reading on the dipstick changes using this approach (?), since the angle it enters the crankcase, and the distance inserted remain the same after swiveling.
'80 FI Spider 2000
'74 and '79 X1/9 (past)
'75 BMW R75/6
2011 Chevy Malibu (daily driver)
2010 Chevy Silverado 2500HD Ext Cab 4WD/STD BED
2002 Edgewater 175CC 80HP 4-Stroke Yamaha
2003 Jaguar XK8
2003 Jaguar XKR
2021 Jayco 22RB
2019 Bianchi Torino Bicycle
'74 and '79 X1/9 (past)
'75 BMW R75/6
2011 Chevy Malibu (daily driver)
2010 Chevy Silverado 2500HD Ext Cab 4WD/STD BED
2002 Edgewater 175CC 80HP 4-Stroke Yamaha
2003 Jaguar XK8
2003 Jaguar XKR
2021 Jayco 22RB
2019 Bianchi Torino Bicycle
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Re: What type of ignition system do you have?
I've got the stock cam mounted dizzie, no VA, to a Crane Hi-6 feeding a Bosch HE coil. Huge spark, I fitted it to my previous 131 when running on LPG, swapped it to my current car when I dismantled the other one.TimpanogosSlim wrote:In particular, it's a GM-style 4-pin module. So you have numerous options, including Crane XR700, XR3000, and Hi-6R.
Mick.
'82 2litre 131, rally cams, IDFs & headers.
'82 2litre 131, rally cams, IDFs & headers.
- Redline
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Re: What type of ignition system do you have?
Muphy's Law... my dizzy craps out when the Computronix units are out of stock. I would have been interested to try it out, but I am more interested to get up and running again ASAP. I've ordered a 123 system from the Netherlands (despite mixed opinions on them) and I'll post my own experience with it. In the long term, I will probably go for the Computronix system.
http://www.124bc.com
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Re: What type of ignition system do you have?
I'll be in Switzerland in 2 weeks, I could have brought one with me.Redline wrote:Muphy's Law... my dizzy craps out
Mick.
'82 2litre 131, rally cams, IDFs & headers.
'82 2litre 131, rally cams, IDFs & headers.
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Re: What type of ignition system do you have?
Hey, c'est la vie. We'll see how the 123 goes and I'll change sometime later when it's convenient. I might be pulling the motor for a freshening sometime in the next year or two. The 123 was a cheap stop-gap, given the strong CHF these days.
http://www.124bc.com
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