Punto wiper motor

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Punto wiper motor

Postby dutchgeordie » Tue Mar 28, 2017 2:47 pm

does anybody know how to wire up a wiper motor out of a Punto in a 1980 Spider?
I have been told that it is possible but the wiring is quite different
I have an image of the Punto and Spider motors here: https://www.dutchgeordie.nl/s/D2csGIUp3CNiG6u
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Re: Punto wiper motor

Postby spider2081 » Wed Mar 29, 2017 10:42 am

I don't think we have the Punto in the USA so I googled a wire diagram. Your photos do suggest the motors might have similar physical footprints.

This is my best guess so that certainly does not make it correct you will have to try it out and see what happens.

I am pretty sure of the following.

Punto Pin Number - 1980 wire color
1 - Light Blue Slow speed
5 - gray Fast speed Note I could have 1&5 reversed but pretty sure they are power to the motor.
2 - Black Ground
3 - gray black Park
4 - light blue/white Delay Note I am not sure of pins 3 or 4 either.

Hopefully you will be able to check a Punto wiper motor from the above information and and correct my guess as necessary. Let us know what you find

If anyone else has info please help us out.

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Re: Punto wiper motor

Postby djape1977 » Wed Mar 29, 2017 1:33 pm

punto motor has ECU on it that controls speed. not sure how that would work with 124 wiring

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Re: Punto wiper motor

Postby spider2081 » Wed Mar 29, 2017 5:44 pm

punto motor has ECU on it that controls speed. not sure how that would work with 124 wiring


Thanks thats important

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Re: Punto wiper motor

Postby dutchgeordie » Thu Mar 30, 2017 8:57 am

the physical footprint is identical so no problem there
the ECU may be the deal breaker
I'll have a bash at the weekend and see what happens
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Re: Punto wiper motor

Postby spider2081 » Thu Mar 30, 2017 12:21 pm

Please keep us informed of your findings. Its an interesting project

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Re: Punto wiper motor

Postby dutchgeordie » Sat Apr 08, 2017 10:09 am

it seemed the footprint was the same but motor housing is straight where as the Spider motor has an angle to it so unfortunately it doesn't fit.
1980 Spider 2000i (imported from USA in 1998)
2007 Renault Vel Satis 3.0 Initiale
2008 Nissan Note 1.6
2009 Suzuki B-King GSX1300 (motorbike)

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Re: Punto wiper motor

Postby dutchgeordie » Mon Apr 10, 2017 3:56 am

I opened up the old motor, cleaned the electrical contacts with contact cleaner, adjusted the interval switch so it wasn't too tight, added some lithium grease and put it all back together. Result ! Don't need a new motor now :D
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Re: Punto wiper motor

Postby spider2081 » Sat Apr 15, 2017 2:50 pm

Thanks for your input. Great that you have your wipers working .

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Re: Punto wiper motor

Postby Turbofiat124 » Thu May 11, 2017 6:17 am

dutchgeordie wrote:I opened up the old motor, cleaned the electrical contacts with contact cleaner, adjusted the interval switch so it wasn't too tight, added some lithium grease and put it all back together. Result ! Don't need a new motor now :D


There are all sorts of better wiper motors that will bolt up to the linkage. One of the most common is the Bosch from a VW/Audi.

Some of the bracket needs to be trimmed off but otherwise it bolts right up.

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Only modification to getting the park function to work is clipping this ground connector and solder a new wire to it to turn it into a 6 wire motor.

I've got a diagram of how to wire this motor to the car's wiring harness.

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I later add a 12 to 18 volt step up converter for more power:

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Here's the motor in action with 18 volts:

http://vid222.photobucket.com/albums/dd ... 2hdn5v.mp4

http://vid222.photobucket.com/albums/dd ... otmrwn.mp4

If you want more information I can elaborate on it. If you search under my user ID, you may find where I posted the function of each wire and where it goes onto the Bosch motor and how to wire up the 18 volt step up converter.


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