1980 spider Restoration phase 2

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AriK
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Your car is a: 1979 Fiat Spider
Location: Montreal Canada

Re: 1980 spider Restoration phase 2

Postby AriK » Sat Jan 14, 2017 8:20 am

Ok, sorry, my bad, i see you documented that repair on page 2. You eliminated those quirky captive bolts inside the rail and installed long bolts from top to bottom. Fiat should have done that from the start but i guess the extra holes would have created a stress point. If they beefed up the area in in the first place as you did...
My right inner fender has similar uneveness as yours shows, either by a hit or the tower is slowly starting to lean in. In any case my alignment guy notices the camber cannot be put into spec by slight but compensates another adjust somehow to keep the steering from pulling, (not sure of the exact detail). What i do know is the car steers dead on and there's no uneven tire wear.

Frankd1
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Your car is a: 1978 Spider
Location: Southwestern Ontario, Canada

Re: 1980 spider Restoration phase 2

Postby Frankd1 » Sun Jan 15, 2017 12:59 pm

Drummond, looking really good! Do you have a link to all of the various photos for your restoration, or is everything in this thread?

Here's something that might provide some info regarding that wrinkled section in the engine compartment, at the top area of the shock mount:

https://m.facebook.com/groups/154869514 ... 0917770900

It was a thread that was started and talks about the possible causes and the fix

spider2081
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Re: 1980 spider Restoration phase 2

Postby spider2081 » Sun Jan 15, 2017 3:22 pm

Jim would you happen to have a photo of how the door window cable is wound on the electric motor capstan??

Thanks

DRUMMOND
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Re: 1980 spider Restoration phase 2

Postby DRUMMOND » Sun Jan 15, 2017 10:50 pm

Frankd1

Not a facebook member. but Thank You!

Here is the link http://s1124.photobucket.com/user/smudgren/story

2k+ photos, be patient :D

Spider2081

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spider2081
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Re: 1980 spider Restoration phase 2

Postby spider2081 » Mon Jan 16, 2017 7:34 am

Thank you so much. I believe the capstans on mine are shot. There was a lot of corrosion on them and just spraying them with WD-40 I can see the ridge separating the winding's is about 1/2 as high as yours. I think that is contributing to the cable jumping out of place

Thanks again Jim
I marvel at your attention to detail as well as you accomplishments. Great job on your car.

Frankd1
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Re: 1980 spider Restoration phase 2

Postby Frankd1 » Mon Jan 16, 2017 6:28 pm

Thanks, I'll take a look at them..
Did you actually separate all of the skins from the hood, trunk doors etc?!!

DRUMMOND
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Re: 1980 spider Restoration phase 2

Postby DRUMMOND » Mon Jan 16, 2017 9:56 pm

Hi frankd1

I separated the hood and the trunk. if I did not they would have had to be scrapped, as there was way too much rust inside. I was not going to paint with that hovering over my head. Plus I only took on this project as a low budget affair, repair as much as possible, replace as little as possible.
The doors I only replaced the bottom halves.
The hood and trunk separation was an easy project. you just have to get over the separation anxiety :D The reconstruction of the drivers fender and inner fender was a pain in the *** took a loooong time, lots of measurements time and time again.

spider2081

You may have some of your guide wheels rusted frozen.

Frankd1
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Re: 1980 spider Restoration phase 2

Postby Frankd1 » Tue Jan 17, 2017 9:08 am

That's the only way to truly get at it all...plus you can seal everything up with masterseries silver or por15 and never have to worry about it again!

Great work!

spider2081
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Re: 1980 spider Restoration phase 2

Postby spider2081 » Tue Jan 17, 2017 10:40 am

You may have some of your guide wheels rusted frozen.


Thanks,
Actually I have mechanical windows on my car. The electric motors assemblies I have are spare parts I just happen to have. One of them had the cable jammed and crushed between the capstan and the housing. The cable is too bent up to use. When I wind good sections of cable into the groove I was thinking the groove was too shallow. I worked in aviation and aircraft autopilots use similar setups with cables and capstans. I was use to seeing much deeper seating of the cable into the groove on the autopilots. I wasn't sure if my memory was failing or if what I have is they way it should be. Your photos show a much deeper seating of the cable into the capstan groove so I guess the two I have are worn out. The motors themselves seem to test good. I haven't taken the motors apart to clean and lubricate them yet.

DRUMMOND
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Re: 1980 spider Restoration phase 2

Postby DRUMMOND » Wed Jan 18, 2017 11:28 pm

Prop shaft rehab
Started with this, First clue that all the rubber was gooey!
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Second clue was the finger applied mastic on the rubber prop middle support??

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completely split open
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Did you know there is an actual working grease nipple on the sliding yoke?
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Checking out the uj's
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Surprisingly they were in near perfect condition?? just cleaned them and repacked them.
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Rubber doughnut was in new condition

DRUMMOND
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Re: 1980 spider Restoration phase 2

Postby DRUMMOND » Thu Feb 02, 2017 10:37 pm

Now the paint has sat for two weeks time for a polishing. Good job its winter would not like to do this in the heat of the summer :D
Very happy how its turned out. just have to make sure not to scratch it when putting it together.
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To this. Makes me all warm inside! :P
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aj81spider
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Your car is a: 1974 Fiat 124 Spider
Location: Chelmsford, MA

Re: 1980 spider Restoration phase 2

Postby aj81spider » Fri Feb 03, 2017 8:51 am

That's beautiful. I'm following this thread in awe of how you are transforming every part of the car!
A.J.

1974 Fiat 124 Spider
2006 Corvette
1981 Spider 2000 (sold 2013 - never should have sold that car)

DRUMMOND
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Re: 1980 spider Restoration phase 2

Postby DRUMMOND » Sat Mar 11, 2017 11:34 pm

Reassembly has started! Wonder if I will remember how it all goes together?
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nelsonj
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Re: 1980 spider Restoration phase 2

Postby nelsonj » Sun Mar 12, 2017 12:15 am

Very nice color. I look forward to seeing more pics!
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So Cal Mark
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Re: 1980 spider Restoration phase 2

Postby So Cal Mark » Sun Mar 12, 2017 12:26 am

what is the emblem you've added behind the front wheel opening?
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