La Bella Ferrara - 20 year project getting closer

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Re: La Bella Ferrara - 20 year project getting closer

Postby nelsonj » Fri Jun 30, 2017 1:33 am

Looks like Photobucket wants me to pay $59.99/month or $399/year to allow me to link photos to this board. I have two words for them - but I'll settle on one "no". This is really terrible because I've used this a blog and an archive for YEARS, now Photobucket has , without warning, destroyed it. Sick and sad. Time to move back to my flicker account, or perhaps get a class action against Photobucket. I bet there are millions on very upset users out there.

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Re: La Bella Ferrara - 20 year project getting closer

Postby MrToon » Fri Jun 30, 2017 5:38 am

I found Imgur very easy to work with and it's free. You might want to give that a look. You can add comments under a picture so that would suit your blog style

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Re: La Bella Ferrara - 20 year project getting closer

Postby AriK » Fri Jun 30, 2017 7:45 am

Seems like photobucket escalated to a new level. They now hold our photos hostage and allow you to view them only as thumbnails. At $60.00/month, that just about equals to what i pay for satelite service and even that, i'll be looking at other options.
Unable to even take a screenshot of the photos, there's no point allowing photobucket steal the photos out of our camera rolls. I have just denied access to them in my privacy settings.

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Re: La Bella Ferrara - 20 year project getting closer

Postby nelsonj » Thu Aug 24, 2017 12:04 am

Just want to document my latest "issue". Just before heading to the beach on Saturday, I noticed a puddle behind the driver's side rear tire. I investigated and could see fluid dipping off the bottom of my fender. I was losing a lot of gas! I investigated further, and after cleaning out my trunk to look at the gas tank, I determined that instead there is a rubber hose that connects the gas fill tube to the gas tank, and my hose got a crack and a leak. (I also took the opportunity to put air in my spare tire while it was out.)

I repaired it temporarily by wrapping a lot of duct tape around it. Unfortunately my gas tank was full, and the fill pipe is at the bottom of the tank, so I decided to go for a drive to burn some gas, and partially drain the tank. By the time I got home I was well below half a tank but my hose was leaking as I pulled into the garage. I put a plastic container under the leak, and then pumped the gas into my daily driver Toyota. I also jacked up the car to accelerate the leak and get it to where it no longer leaked when on flat ground. My red light is on solid on the gas gauge and figure I've got about a gallon in the tank. Very, very messy experience and I smelled like gas for several days afterwards.

The new hose arrived today (sort of expensive, around $40+shipping) and I plan to install it Saturday early AM. Current plan is to just cut off the old hose, soak the new hose in boiling water (to get it flexible), put some oil on the filler pipe and the gas tank pipe, and hope for an easy slide-on install. I think there are two clamps that need to be loosened and retightened in the process.

I've had a run of cat and dog minor issues of late. None of them that bad, but all of them took me off the road. I plan to start a new thread called "Mean Time Between Failures" and post my findings, and see if others have similar statistics.

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Re: La Bella Ferrara - 20 year project getting closer

Postby nelsonj » Mon Sep 04, 2017 2:19 pm

Quick update: I replaced the gas filler hose last week. Everything works great, no leaks, but it was a bit of a pain. Below are a few tips, and I think I'll put a thread in the general maintenance with with same info.

Replacing the gas filler hose:
First clean out your trunk and remove all the trunk floor panels so you have access to the gas tank filler pipe.
1) I have a 78 gas tank systems, this procedure may vary a bit based on the year.
2) The thick, almost 90 deg hose connects a the metal gas filler tube (where the gas cap is) to a pipe inlet near the bottom of the gas tank that runs parallel to the ground.
3) First drain your gas tank as much as you can (but leave a little gas in (like 1 gal) so you can drive to the gas station when finished)
4) If you don't have a lift, jack up the car form the rear driverside wheel and then put a stand under for safety. You need to get under rear wheel area to work, and you'll have to muscle things around, so make CERTAIN your car is safely on stands, and you should also block a few wheels. SAFETY FIRST AND ALWAYS.
5) The hose is held in place by two hose clamps. One connecting to the bottom of the gas tank, one connecting to the filler pipe. I think there is an 8mm bolt that you need to turn to loosen the clamps, and then drop them either forward or backwards. The bottom hose clamp is easy to get to, but the top clamp is way up there, you don't have a lot of access and it will likely take some time. A very small ratchet, of better yet a small pivot ratchet is your best bet. I recommend wearing goggles because a bunch of junk will fall in your face while your on the ground looking up to the clamp. (And watch out for spiders in the area.)
6) Once the clamps are off just use brute force and work the hose off both ends and remove it.

Now that was by far the easy part. The hard part is getting the new hose on. After a few hours of trial and error, this is the method I got to work...
7) Now just connect the new hose and your done - right. In order to do this, I first removed the filler pipe. It is held in by two screw bolts near the gas cap. The bolts have a nut underneath that's hard to see. After you loosen them a bit, you have to find the nuts an hold them in place (by hand or pliers) in order to get them all the way removed (otherwise they just spin in place).
8) The filler pipe has an overflow tube and a another connection hose to the gas tank. You have to remove a clamp on the filler pipe and disconnect the additional small hose from the filler pipe. The overflow you can just move away by hand.
9) With the filler pipe "free", pull it up out of the trunk cavity. Put some lubricant (oil) on the filler pipe where the hose will need to slip on. Also lubricate both ends of your replacement hose, and the connection pipe to the gas tank.
9a) Either align the hose clams on the hose or put them our the filler pipe and the gas tank pipe. MAKE SURE they are in place before you go to step 10.
10) TRICK TRICK TRICK: The replacement hose is thick and basically makes a 90 deg turn. From below the car shove the hose into the cavity and shove it as far up as you can towards the now removed filler pipe. Make sure you have the correct part pointing upwards. As you shove it up the cavity, it will "bottom out" when it hits metal in the trunk area but you will be able to see it, and align it from the trunk area. Make sure the hose is generally aligned, that is the other end of the hose is generally aligned to connect to the gas tank.
11) TRICK TRICK TRICK: Don't conned the hose to the gas tank yet, GET A HELPER, and have them hold the hose in place from under the car. Then, from top going in through the trunk, slowly lower the filler pipe, and adjust the position of the hose, and shove/jiggle/cajole the filler pipe into the hose. The hose is thick and you have to muscle the filler tube onto it. But the hose doesn't have much room to escape, especially if the helper is cooperating.
12) Once it's on the filler pipe about half way connected, connect the other end of the house to the gas tank pipe. This part is pretty easy.
13) Push the filler pipe 100% into position and reconnect the bolts that hold it in place, position the over flow tube and reconnect the other fill tube.
14) Simply (Ha, HA, HAAA) put the hose clamps in place and tighten them up.

I had a very hard time getting the filler pipe clamp in position. As a result, I went through the trunk and drop in a second clamp and tightened it up just to be 100% sure it wouldn't leak gas. The top of the hose is below the level of gas when the tank is full (great design...not), so you really have to be sure both ends of the hose are well sealed/clamped.

That's it. Good luck and if you have original rubber down there, I strongly suggest you replace this before it fails. Just make sure you are very, very low on gas before you start.

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