Electric Fiat 124

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ElectricSpider
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Electric Fiat 124

Postby ElectricSpider » Sat Mar 04, 2017 5:20 pm

Found this cool 8) project car (1980 124-2000) in 2015 in San Diego. 2nd owner, good shape, no rust, but still 35 years old! Drove it for a while then got after a full resto-mod-evconversion. Thought it worth posting & sharing some pics finally. It is nearly complete and just fine tuning details. It drives incredibly well and is a hair faster :twisted: No more smog tests and the first 250 miles are run on pure charge from off-grid solar panels.

Details: (OEM vs EV Conversion Specs)
64kw/96kw
82hp/176hp
99/205 ft/lbs torque
0-60 mph: 12.2/6.7 seconds
0-100mph 73.6/really quick
2291/2511 lbs (curb)
Battery: 36 kWhr Tesla Smart Modules
130 mpc range (17 Miles per hour charge rate)

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Some build thread details are on my website or instagram @electricgte. Just put a driving video up too on Insta! Soon I hope to to get to a few shows and share the project in So Cal!
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jwldane
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Re: Electric Fiat 124

Postby jwldane » Sat Mar 04, 2017 5:51 pm

Really nice job!

Would love to hear more about the specifics, trans, diff, etc it they're not stock 124. More pics would be cool too.

John

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Re: Electric Fiat 124

Postby klweimer » Sat Mar 04, 2017 6:55 pm

Cool!

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Re: Electric Fiat 124

Postby RRoller123 » Sat Mar 04, 2017 7:03 pm

Wow! That is fantastic!
'80 FI Spider 2000 (rolling hobby, being "restored" now)
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Re: Electric Fiat 124

Postby mscafide » Sat Mar 04, 2017 7:37 pm

And the website is?

Very cool and a great job. I want to know more.
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Re: Electric Fiat 124

Postby superbenk » Sat Mar 04, 2017 8:24 pm

Here's the site of the place who does the conversion: http://www.electricgt.com/electric-fiat-124-spider-2/

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Re: Electric Fiat 124

Postby AriK » Sat Mar 04, 2017 8:33 pm

Welcome to the site. That's a very intriguing project. Following your progress on instagram.

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Re: Electric Fiat 124

Postby AndyS » Sat Mar 04, 2017 8:47 pm

did you see the price? you could buy a near mint low miles Tesla roadsters for $30,000 less than that and it would run circles around that car. Its an interesting project and looks well executed, but also a pretty pointless one IMO and at that price point it really makes no sense at all..
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Electric Fiat 124 - Drive Line

Postby ElectricSpider » Sat Mar 04, 2017 9:31 pm

Will work on going back through the build to post "build in-reverse". It sure has has been fun doing this for the past 18 months or so and way easier than doing the 78-308-GTS project!... especially in the last 3 months. The 124 has turned into a more likable project :D -

Here are the basics regarding the suspension, brakes, & drive line:

Used the OEM driveline from face of manual trans all the way to the wheels. So far it handles the 2x of torque well and we have yet to "super" tune the controllers which should shave us down to 6 sec 0-60 to match the 2017 124 (2nd gear start). Mated the dual HPEVS AC-34 motor package with a billet aluminum adapter-plate, used the "off the shelf" VW aluminum billet flywheel so we did not have to reinvent (design/mill) a new one, customized the clutch - Mitsubishi spline pattern thrown into a 200mm VW size clutch disk (vs the 215mm stock), and a VW pressure plate. All gears in place per OEM. 1st gear is really to tall for any use and it hits speed/6000 RPM way too fast. But 2-5 are really functional and smooth. Checked and serviced trans & differential, new drive line kit (flex disc, u joints, trans mount, and center bearing), hubs, balljoint, steering, etc. All good and no major upgrades to OEM. New rotors, rebuilt OEM calipers and dropped on the 8x15 wheels. Re-sprung car with increased spring rate and rebalanced springs. Left the vacuum pump off the brake booster to see if we could avoid use of the electric vacuum pump. Easy to add but after testing with the programable regenerative braking... NO NEED. It would be overkill and the concept of improved braking via regen in combo with OEM equipment hit the nail on the head. The regen button allows pure foot off "motor" braking as opposed to downshifting and braking. It is kinda cool.. may have to wire brake light to that button as it gets more use than the pedal.

So many cool details yet to cover.. will keep addressing as time permits! Thanks for the feedback! Will stay on questions/discussion on this thread & website is Electricgt.com, or I can always be reached at eric@electricgt.com. Thanks for the welcome Arik... signed up last year but neglected to track the build but always wanted to get it up to share.

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Re: Electric Fiat 124

Postby spider2081 » Sun Mar 05, 2017 7:26 am

Thanks for the post. Truly a great project.

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Re: Electric Fiat 124

Postby zachmac » Sun Mar 05, 2017 4:47 pm

AndyS wrote:did you see the price? you could buy a near mint low miles Tesla roadsters for $30,000 less than that and it would run circles around that car. Its an interesting project and looks well executed, but also a pretty pointless one IMO and at that price point it really makes no sense at all..


Gotta agree with AndyS. For 85 grand there are about a hundred other cars I'd buy before this. Yes it is cool and a "neat" project. But 85k, really? Given unlimited funds you can make almost anything into anything; but that doesn't make doing so make sense.
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Re: Electric Fiat 124

Postby mullioni » Sun Mar 05, 2017 8:48 pm

What is the tire size you are using ?

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Tires:Electric Fiat 124

Postby ElectricSpider » Sun Mar 05, 2017 9:03 pm

225/??R15 Nitto competion tires on the 8"x15" wheels from VickAuto. Bit agressive but fun to drive. I can grab aspect ratio tomorrow if needed... dont recall. All new custom spings. Even though it was advised to cut front inner wells, we have them working well w/o rubbing.

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Re: Electric Fiat 124

Postby autotransgression » Mon Mar 06, 2017 12:58 pm

awesome. love it. to the haters above: well, for the price of a decent 124 spider plus whatever you put into it to make it a daily driver, you could buy a very reliable used corolla which would be considerably faster.

yeah...that's not the point.

hope i can see this awesome beast in person, some day.
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Re: Electric Fiat 124

Postby AriK » Mon Mar 06, 2017 4:47 pm

  This concept is not your average undertaking therefore not for the average buyer.  Of course from a monetary  point of view there are more effective options, meaning 99.999% of us wouldn't buy this. 
   What i appreciate is that our cars are finally getting the respect they deserve.  What was at one time considered an inexpensive option to owning a poor man's disposable baby Ferrari, we now see enthusiasts taking it steps further and putting good coin into remarkable restorations.  It's pure seduction when i see such work revealed  by some of us here on the forum.  When one sinks 20,30,40K+ into a restoration, sure there are more worthwhile options, but if the project is executed in a tasteful manner, there stands a  "novelty factor" which is priceless.  
   It's for the love of the brand.
  At the end of the day each person does as he pleases.  That 0.001% target buyer is out there somewhere.  I've met one such individual at FFO.
  I find this car presents itself very well and i appreciate the logistics behind it.


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