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Insulation/carpeting

Postby Kwlittle » Wed Dec 07, 2016 6:10 pm

Folks

I'm installing Dynamat Extreme insulation soon and have become aware of another of their products, "Dynadeck", which apparently incorporates the "Dynaliner" thermal insulation as well as a carpet-like cover. I was going to follow the Dynamat layer (which is basically noise insulation) with a 1/4 inch Dynaliner (thermal) and then traditional carpet, but the combo thermal/carpet Dynadeck sounds interesting. Anyone have any thoughts or experience with this Dynadeck product? It's not cheap, but cheaper than buying Dynaliner and carpet separately, I'm not particularly trying to do this on the cheap, just curious.

Thanks

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Re: Insulation/carpeting

Postby baltobernie » Thu Dec 08, 2016 4:23 pm

I don't have experience with either of these products, but be aware that the total thickness of all floor coverings should approximate OEM, or you will have fitment issues with console, thresholds, etc.

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Re: Insulation/carpeting

Postby Kwlittle » Thu Dec 08, 2016 4:45 pm

Thanks, I've got that in mind. After talking with a local car interior shop today, they thought the DynaMat Extreme and DynaLiner was overkill. So I'm thinking just putting jute down over the DynaMat Extreme and then carpet. The local dealer did have a sample of the DynaDeck and it looked, well, pretty rubbery. So much for that...

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Re: Insulation/carpeting

Postby AFRetired » Thu Dec 08, 2016 6:12 pm

That's what I did, Dynamat Exterme and then Jute with aluminum backing over the tunnel and on the flat portion of the floor boards. Seems to work well
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Re: Insulation/carpeting

Postby 4uall » Thu Dec 08, 2016 8:30 pm

When using foam padding or jute backing, unwanted moisture can easily be the cause of early deterioration in the floor of the vehicle.

Big supporter of EZ COOL

Less than 1oz per sq. ft.
Excellent fire rating.
No bubbles to pop.
Absorbs NO MOISTURE!
1/4" Closed cell foam.
Reflects temperatures over 900°
99% Aluminum facing.
Reflects 97% infrared heat.
Meets DOT FMVSS 302 standards.

4uall wrote:I thought I had mentioned I only ordered the one roll and still had some left over. Hard to find in all these posts :roll:

Here you go

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EZ Cool by itzebtze, on Flickr

The website is very simple however, the guy was very easy to deal with. I would go with the larger role (4X20) if you wanted to do the trunk area as well. The stuff is awesome and made an instant difference for me. Cannot remember what I paid but it was certainly worth it.

Good luck :mrgreen:
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Re: Insulation/carpeting

Postby Texafornian » Tue Feb 28, 2017 11:53 am

Hi Jay, so what does your installation look like? Sheet metal --> POR 15 --> 3M Adhesive --> EZCool --> 3M Adhesive --> Carpet? Or do you install another layer of padding between the EZCool and carpet?

Sorry for the detailed question, but I have read through all the past posts on this topic, and am trying to figure out the best way to put carpet back into my Spider after chasing rust around my floor pans :?
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Re: Insulation/carpeting

Postby Texafornian » Wed Mar 01, 2017 1:16 am

Found this thread, which was very helpful, but still curious about successful recipes:

viewtopic.php?f=9&t=16741&hilit=padding
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Re: Insulation/carpeting

Postby jwldane » Wed Mar 01, 2017 7:05 am

Just an idea for you to consider.

IMHO all these sound deadening products are way over priced. An audio sound shop guy told to get window sealer tape and that it works as well. This stuff comes in 6" wide rolls for about $17 per roll at Home Depot. 3 rolls will cover the entire interior of the 124. Its basically a heavy asphalt like tape. Works great in my car. Doors sound like BMW doors when you close them and the whole car sounds a lot more solid. I had the double foil faced bubble wrap stuff before and it is worthless by comparison. For around $50, its a great alternative.

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Re: Insulation/carpeting

Postby njoconnor » Wed Mar 01, 2017 7:42 am

[quote="Texafornian"]Found this thread, which was very helpful, but still curious about successful recipes:

I found Pete's (RRoller) thread very helpful:

viewtopic.php?f=15&t=22349

The local Michael's stores here in Madison tell me the EVA foam rolls are no longer available (this was two years ago), so you may have to search for it. I did "POR" like substance-rust inhibiting primer-rust inhibiting enamel paint-EZ Cool- two layers of EVA-carpet. Comes right to stock thickness, and I'm really happy with the results.

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Re: Insulation/carpeting

Postby RRoller123 » Wed Mar 01, 2017 2:52 pm

My follow up on this: A few years later, and the dyed pieces (center console parts, door panels, door handles) are holding up really well, as is the carpet. The only points of wear that need annual touchup with the dye are the door handles, which get handled and flex somewhat, so that makes sense.
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Re: Insulation/carpeting

Postby architect » Wed May 10, 2017 2:12 pm

I covered my interior from head to toe using about three boxes of Noico 80 mil.

-including all floor surfaces
-fire wall
-doors
-and rear seat sheet metal /between trunk

Warning - this stuff is HEAVYYYYYY!

https://www.amazon.com/Noico-deadening- ... 4BXG74AHSC
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Re: Insulation/carpeting

Postby TX82FIAT » Wed May 10, 2017 2:37 pm

if you look real close at the original material is is very similar to the rolls of roof insulator you can buy at home depot. I asked around and found a lot of the hot rod guys used this product in their car. Tar like substence that will solidify over time with foil on the other side. You can bend and mold it to the floor panel pushing it down with a roller just like dynomat. Works like a dream, no heat off the transmission tunnel.
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Re: Insulation/carpeting

Postby gchocevar » Tue Jun 20, 2017 8:40 am

There is website for a self stick rubber with aluminum backing that I used. It was low profile and easy to cut. The self stick is strong and never lifted after 5 years. I used three sheets and cover the hump and the front floor. The plant is in PA.

http://www.soundproofcow.com/product/ro ... -material/

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Re: Insulation/carpeting

Postby rodo » Fri Jun 08, 2018 9:09 am

I'd like to revive this thread to ask about the insulation materials discussed and weight. Some of these sheets, besides being pricey, are very heavy. Anyone worried about adding another, what, thirty pounds, to their cars? Can anyone talk about longer term experience with whatever insulation materials you have used?

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Re: Insulation/carpeting

Postby TX82FIAT » Fri Jun 08, 2018 10:40 am

The aluminum backed roofing material I mentioned last year was installed on my 82 Spider about 5 years ago. I have had not issues at all with heat. The car has 2.5 inch exhaust with a glass pack where the catalytic converter goes and a free flow muffler and the top is almost always down so I can speak to the noise deadening. Weight has never been an issue. No signs of moisture anywhere material applied. However, I do have my first small bubble in the 9 year old pain job at the base of the door from moisture getting inside the door.
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